angelman 01:48 PM 04-08-2008
I am not really sure what those who don't want to join a Union in case they give money to Labour, think that the Labour party is. Admittedly over the past 20 years or so the Labour party has been hi-jacked by supposedly Left wing politicians who seem to have tried to move away from the Union paymasters as much as possible.
If I was a Union boss then I would be somewhat "disappointed" with "New" Labour for not upholding the traditional views of the working man/unions. They (Labour) seem to have forgotten whence they came from and who they represent. (Is that why the use "New" in the name?)
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Baron von Lotsov 03:32 AM 05-08-2008
There is nothing new about New Labour, it's just a lurch to the left. OK well previously you could argue that their vehicle was the union movement and now they have switched to quangos, but it's just new cloths for old ideas. The Left has never given a monkey's for the working class, they have used them right from the start and most likely because they are generally poorly educated and Labour like to ensure they keep them that way. Champaign socialism it is all the way to the bank and they are the elite or the ones who cut up the spoils. At one quango it was reported their placeman was on £220 000 per year, and that's far more than even the prime minister officially gets. The only difference now is that the workers are getting educated more as information is available beyond Labour's control, i.e. the Internet. That's why Glasgow East rejected them, they found out they had been had. And good for them too.
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david H 03:49 AM 05-08-2008
I certainly think that Anthony Crossland meant to turn the working class into a lumpen proletariat by scrapping grammar schools. I remember a semi-skilled factory worker going out with petitions for comprehensive education! The working classes have always had a simple trust in labour and the unions.
A bloke I drink with still can not see that they are being betrayed even now and are encouraging cheap labour to come here. One way this was brought about was by the evil Roy Jenkin's Race Acts. To think that smug, arrogant thing was a Welsh miner's son!
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