Originally Posted by The Bear:
It’s well said you cheat me, shame on you. You cheat me twice, shame on me.

In any case it’s not a question of being continually punished, it’s a question of a persons future career prospects being determined when some career require the highest moral standards and that includes NOT getting into crime.

Criminality is directly linked to morality. The two are mutually exclusive. Where a person of high moral standards is required for a position then a criminal record from anywhere in their past shows that they are not such a person.

Notice how Bear perpetuates the myth that governments/elites are god-like creatures that can do no wrong, under the illusion that because the self-serving systems and laws (that they make) does not prosecute them when under any real "moral" code they should be, then therefore they must be trustworthy individuals.

Forget the fact that these politicians have committed endless crimes on their populations, that troops are guarding the poppy fields in Afghanistan to ship the class A drugs in for the population, that over 1,000,000 innocent people have been killed because of unjustified and illegal wars, that thousands of children are kidnapped and tortured each year, that we as a population are fed lies by our mainstream media and have our food and water poisoned, that the population is illegally spied upon and have their private information shared with private compnaies, that law is made to intentionally criminalize populations and feed the crimnally unaccountable system.

No !

If you commit a crime then you deserve everything you get and desrve no 2nd chance, whilst those real criminals who hold the highest office have done absolutely nothing wrong because they have supposedly "clean" records and have the highest moral standards.

Well Bear in response to your initial comment,
"we don't get fooled again" by you or this insane system you call justice.....
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Also Bear, if the government brought in a law that said that breathing was illegal, would you accept you were a criminal who deserved to be punished ?

And what is the law dictated that the punishment for this crime was torture or death ?

After all, I know you hate breaking the law, so surely you would deserve to die if the law decided that was fair ?
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Bear> A serious question here.

You said:

Originally Posted by :
I have NEVER broken the law.

and yet also said:

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tried several “certain substances”, (and DID inhale!)

So which substances where these then?

Ea of dune
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Originally Posted by Ea of Dune:
Bear> A serious question here.

You said:



and yet also said:



So which substances where these then?

Ea of dune

(Back from a day trip to Calais.)

Nothing illegal, at least not at the time.

In the 60’s ‘herbal’ tobbaco’s often contained herbs that today would be frowned on and had a second advantage that they cost less than tobbaco. There was even a story doing the rounds that dried banana skins had "certain effects".

They didn’t, but that didn’t stop people trying them since they were not illegal. We also tried herbal sage. Don’t ask.

There were a couple of people who I knew who used “Morning Glory” seeds but for me this was a bit too far. The best place for that is on a trellis!

What was spectacular but at the same time horrible was nutmeg. The effect of a large ‘dose’ of nutmeg is very frightening.

There’s no need to break the law when you’re at an age when experimentation seems like a fun thing to try but I wouldn't advise this! BBC News | Africa | Children high on sewage
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You can still buy all the herbal stuff at music festivals, infact they have massive stalls usually selling herbal ecstasy and herbal highs.
Why these are legal and Cannabis isn't is beyond me though....
Did you ever smoke pot back "in the day"?

Ea of dune
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Also just to add to a comment made on the previous page. The "Racial and Religious Hatred Act" was passed:

Hate crime | Home Office

Originally Posted by :
The Racial and Religious Hatred Act
This law, which came into effect in 2007, makes it a criminal offence to use threatening words or behaviour with the intention of stirring up hatred against any group of people because of their religious beliefs or their lack of religious beliefs.

You can download and read the full act (new window) for more information.

Ea of dune
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Originally Posted by Ea of Dune:
You can still buy all the herbal stuff at music festivals, infact they have massive stalls usually selling herbal ecstasy and herbal highs.
Why these are legal and Cannabis isn't is beyond me though....
Did you ever smoke pot back "in the day"?

Ea of dune

No. To be honest it apart from anything else it scared me, as did the prospect of the effects of LSD. I had hard enough job getting my degree as it was without watering down what little intellect I had / have.


As for the illegality of cannabis, from what I’ve read that has a very great deal to do with the lobbying of US breweries and tobacco companies and surprisingly enough textile makers than anything else.
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Wow, thanks for that. It's something I think I will be considering as Grotto Helpers must have a CRB Check.
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Originally Posted by The Bear:
(Back from a day trip to Calais.)

Nothing illegal, at least not at the time.

What was spectacular but at the same time horrible was nutmeg. The effect of a large ‘dose’ of nutmeg is very frightening.

There’s no need to break the law when you’re at an age when experimentation seems like a fun thing to try but I wouldn't advise this! BBC News | Africa | Children high on sewage

So what does a large does of nutmeg do to those who ingest it then?
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Originally Posted by Ea of Dune:
Also just to add to a comment made on the previous page. The "Racial and Religious Hatred Act" was passed:

Hate crime | Home Office



Ea of dune

The original legislation was to include far more than has been in the final version hence what I stated is factually correct.

The reason that it was amended and published as it is can e found by examine the content of the Koran since if the full version of the law had gone on the books there were to be prosecutions brought to have the koran declared an illegal publication based on how it treats different religions.

One URL of many

Dhimmi Watch: UK: Quoting Koran Could Be Illegal Under Proposed UK Bill, Lawmaker Says
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