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Olympic Flame 04:34 PM 04-08-2008
The BNP's summary Manifesto is quite ironic, especially on the economic ones.

BNP believes that British industries(manufacturing) are closing down because the government is not taking care of them and argues that "only nationalism can produce a successful economy and a prosperous people." And then it goes on with the example of "oriental nations" such as South Korea, Japan and Singapore on how they in the past managed private enterprise as well as national industry. Looking at the past history of the economic success of Japan and Singapore it is the low tax and incentive to MNCs in the 60s and 70s lead to their first economic boom. Secondly none of the nations depend on manufacturing now, even Taiwan and Singapore's past success on manufacturing of computer chips are overshadowed by the manufacturing giant China. On the other hand BNP takes pride in demonizing foreign companies, industries and investment and regarding such activities as devastation of home grown manufacturing industries.

Singapore has a very high rate of immigration over the years and is projected to reach 6 million population target from the current 4.5million in around a decade's time, a rate of increase unthinkable in Britain. Japan's leading party now is pushing for more open immigration policy due to her own aging population.

In the 50s till the 70s North America is the king of manufacturing industry, the greatest exporter. Times changed. With China, India, Eastern Europe and India entering the global economy, none of the developed nation today dream of reviving such a labour intensive industry. While BNP acknowledge that China and India has low waged workers yet she blames the establisment's "laissez-fair" economy, (laissez-fair under New Labour?). It's like closing one's own eyes and telling yourself that the wage gap does not exist as long as you "close the market"( of course they dont quite like to mention where is British manufactured product going to be sold if other countries do the same) and what kind of magical pill do they have to level the handicap of high British wage to make it more competitive.

Next let us take a look at some of the BNP economic policies -protect local industry from unfair foreign export...
and in the next few lines they slap themselves on the face by saying they are going to encourage investment-I wonder what kind of investment they can expect in a region full of tariff.

This is what they are doing-partially recognising the nature of the global capitalistic economy while remaining in a state of denial and pretending that they have quick and easy solution. Of course this is done by a polarised children story of politics where on one hand you have the bad guys called the government/elites/globalist who are trying every mean to betray her own people and on the other hand you have the BNP heroes to rescue them.
http://www.bnp.org.uk/pdf_files/minimanifesto2007.pdf
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The Nationalist 05:31 PM 04-08-2008
Britain should not rely on a global market and if the global market collapsed Britain should be able to carry on as normal. If Britain is self sufficient there would be no need for giant global companies and it would be safe from economic melt downs.

A nationalist government does not use mass capitalism, growth and exploitation as it is not sustainable and eventually the system will crash. Ideally the population would need to drop back down to around the 20 million mark as that is its optimum safe level and any higher damages the natural environment and makes it impossible to live off the land.

All the environmental damage has been caused by global cabalism and people need to live in balance with nature. Prophase you did not realise the BNP is also one of the first green movements and is far more practical and realistic than the green party. Check out Land and People at:
http://www.bnp.org.uk/landandpeople/
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British-Conservatism 08:51 PM 06-08-2008

Originally Posted by Olympic Flame:
The BNP's summary Manifesto is quite ironic, especially on the economic ones.

BNP believes that British industries(manufacturing) are closing down because the government is not taking care of them and argues that "only nationalism can produce a successful economy and a prosperous people." And then it goes on with the example of "oriental nations" such as South Korea, Japan and Singapore on how they in the past managed private enterprise as well as national industry. Looking at the past history of the economic success of Japan and Singapore it is the low tax and incentive to MNCs in the 60s and 70s lead to their first economic boom. Secondly none of the nations depend on manufacturing now, even Taiwan and Singapore's past success on manufacturing of computer chips are overshadowed by the manufacturing giant China. On the other hand BNP takes pride in demonizing foreign companies, industries and investment and regarding such activities as devastation of home grown manufacturing industries.

Singapore has a very high rate of immigration over the years and is projected to reach 6 million population target from the current 4.5million in around a decade's time, a rate of increase unthinkable in Britain. Japan's leading party now is pushing for more open immigration policy due to her own aging population.

In the 50s till the 70s North America is the king of manufacturing industry, the greatest exporter. Times changed. With China, India, Eastern Europe and India entering the global economy, none of the developed nation today dream of reviving such a labour intensive industry. While BNP acknowledge that China and India has low waged workers yet she blames the establisment's "laissez-fair" economy, (laissez-fair under New Labour?). It's like closing one's own eyes and telling yourself that the wage gap does not exist as long as you "close the market"( of course they dont quite like to mention where is British manufactured product going to be sold if other countries do the same) and what kind of magical pill do they have to level the handicap of high British wage to make it more competitive.

Next let us take a look at some of the BNP economic policies -protect local industry from unfair foreign export...
and in the next few lines they slap themselves on the face by saying they are going to encourage investment-I wonder what kind of investment they can expect in a region full of tariff.

This is what they are doing-partially recognising the nature of the global capitalistic economy while remaining in a state of denial and pretending that they have quick and easy solution. Of course this is done by a polarised children story of politics where on one hand you have the bad guys called the government/elites/globalist who are trying every mean to betray her own people and on the other hand you have the BNP heroes to rescue them.
http://www.bnp.org.uk/pdf_files/minimanifesto2007.pdf

Good to see a mature level of debate on economics rather than slinging names like "Nazi" around.
When I have more time I would like to debate you on such matters and the benefits of the Nationalist Mixed Economy with your own Libertarian views.
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Smidgey 09:46 PM 06-08-2008

Originally Posted by Dissident Congress:
5. All Sterling notes and coins are legal tender in all countries that use them. For example, Scottish banknotes are legal tender in Montserrat.

But they're not even legal tender in Scotland...
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Olympic Flame 07:01 PM 03-09-2008

Originally Posted by British-Conservatism:
Good to see a mature level of debate on economics rather than slinging names like "Nazi" around.
When I have more time I would like to debate you on such matters and the benefits of the Nationalist Mixed Economy with your own Libertarian views.

I dont see myself as a libertarian. There are many who are in this forum. Im one of those who attracts criticisms for agreeing with certain government policy that resembles a "police state".
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