cassie 06:57 PM 04-08-2008
Originally Posted by The Bear:
Multi ethnic = good idea
Multi cultural= BAD idea.
I'm afraid that I do not totally agree.
Here is my view:
Multi race = OK
Multi ethnic = not OK
Multi cultural = not OK.
Ethnicity is more than just race!
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British-Conservatism 12:08 PM 08-08-2008
Originally Posted by whypatcondellisntfun:
You seem to be interested in simply stirring up a hornets nest of hate, rather than any sort of intelligent debate.
Well, you seem to be enamored of videos from the US. Here is one regarding how US reporters view racism in European football (don't worry, they mention Muslims too!)
YouTube - European Racism
Should I take the actions of those football fans to be representative of all Europeans, eh, Nationalist?
Don't worry, you don't have to reply in any sort of succinct fashion. Just post another video demonstrating how Muslims are trying to take over the world...
What a bunch of babies.
You could come to my work place and pelt me with Banana's all day for £10,000 a week.
I remember standing on the terraces back in the 1980's with 25,000 people singing - "trigger trigger trigger shoot that n*****" and "Dao Dao he's a six foot n***** and he's Black as F***".
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The Nationalist 02:30 PM 08-08-2008
I think it is clear that a lot of football fans not like foreigners representing there nation.
Just like to add a few more videos:
CBN news:
Fox news:
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whypatcondellisntfun 03:01 PM 08-08-2008
Originally Posted by The Nationalist:
I think it is clear that a lot of football fans not like foreigners representing there nation.
Er. Yes they are representing their nation.
You posted a video at the start of this thread regarding how Americans (allegedly) view Muslims in Britain, and you expect me to extrapolate from that video that all Muslims in Britain are extremist nutters.
I posted a video regarding the other side of the coin, how Americans view the 'indigenous' population of Europe showing racism towards the 'non-indigenous' population. My question to you was this:
Originally Posted by whypatcondellisntfun:
Should I take the actions of those football fans to be representative of all Europeans, eh, Nationalist?
Can you answer this question?
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The Nationalist 03:36 PM 08-08-2008
I was just showing how Americans view what is happening in Britain and there are plenty of things the media don’t show us or avoid.
Everyone knows football fans get very competitive and do prefer members of there nation to represent them. I am not talking about citizens of the state or people who just live in an area. If someone was Welsh they would equally not have the same support of the English when playing for England. If it is not members of the nation playing for that nation it might as well be called the reds vs. the blues.
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whypatcondellisntfun 04:04 PM 08-08-2008
Originally Posted by The Nationalist:
I was just showing how Americans view what is happening in Britain and there are plenty of things the media don’t show us or avoid.
And so was I. We are making the same point, then.
Originally Posted by The Nationalist:
Everyone knows football fans get very competitive and do prefer members of there nation to represent them. I am not talking about citizens of the state or people who just live in an area. If someone was Welsh they would equally not have the same support of the English when playing for England. If it is not members of the nation playing for that nation it might as well be called the reds vs. the blues.
I can see I have to labour this point as you are intent on wriggling off the hook.
Are you saying, is that it is not valid for me to assert that football fans represent the entire European population? That the European population cannot be represented by the actions of a minority?
If that is the case, I put it to you that it is not valid for you to assert that the entire Muslim population of Europe can be represented by the actions of a minority either.
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British-Conservatism 04:24 PM 08-08-2008
Originally Posted by whypatcondellisntfun:
And so was I. We are making the same point, then.
I can see I have to labour this point as you are intent on wriggling off the hook.
Are you saying, is that it is not valid for me to assert that football fans represent the entire European population? That the European population cannot be represented by the actions of a minority?
If that is the case, I put it to you that it is not valid for you to assert that the entire Muslim population of Europe can be represented by the actions of a minority either.
would you like the England team full of Africans like the French team is?
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