This video shows how news reporters in America see Multiculturalism in Britain:


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Originally Posted by The Nationalist:
This video shows how news reporters in America see Multiculturalism in Britain:

YouTube - Can Britain Survive Multiculturalism?

Mmmm. What balanced reporting that was.

1. Regarding sharia law, not all Muslims want it, the fact that the majority of Muslims are not calling for Sharia law. From what I understand, neither the Arch Bishop of Canterbury nor the Judge who spoke about sharia are talking about replacing existing British laws with sharia law, which is the impression the above report gives.

Here is the other side of the coin. The two Muslim women in this video provide a better, more factual analysis of the situation than the "reporters" in the video above, you are free to make your own decision on that.


2. The continued references to "Christian" Britian "resisting" multiculturalism are quite funny. I thought that there were some Jews, Atheists, Buddhists, Sikh and Hindus in Britain. If you are a British Christian against multiculturalism, surely you should be looking at how to deal with the "threat" of all non-Christians in Britain?
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I'm not a religious person myself but I think that multiculturalism has gone way too far.
I was in an area of North London earlier this year and it honestly looked like the third world. It felt totally alien to me I'm afraid.

Ea of dune
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Originally Posted by Ea of Dune:
I'm not a religious person myself but I think that multiculturalism has gone way too far.
I was in an area of North London earlier this year and it honestly looked like the third world. It felt totally alien to me I'm afraid.

Feeling 'alien' doesn't mean 'is wrong'. How does feeling alien work out when you go abroad?

I agree that immigration has probably gone too far. But that is a different thing altogether from multiculturalism.

As I pointed out above, non-Christians are (apparently!) alien to the UK, yet the UK is apparently 15.5% Atheist. Are Atheists acceptable to the dominant British Christians (UK is 71% Christian) as part of "multicultural" Britain but other religions not?

If we are going to call multiculturalism a failure and start voluntarily re-locating people who do not conform to the dominant Christian culture, where shall we send Atheists? China perhaps? It has no state religion. It is officially Atheist, surely Athesits would feel more comfortable in China, then, than in a culture dominated by Christians?
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Pat> Having lived in a couple of foreign countries I've always made the effort to integrate into the society where I am living.
Also when I visit another country, I go there to see its culture and sites. I don't go there to start a mini version of England in the middle of Istanbul for example. It is about having respect for your host culture, something I have no problem doing.

I doubt the majority of people in Britain mind people coming to this country to open resutrants etc. I don't have a problem with it and I don't know anyone else who has. However the problem comes when whole areas of cities change, when the people moving in make no attempt to mix with the local people and have no real respect for the area they move into.
I don't have a problem with places like China town i.e. tourist places but when I vist inner city residential areas where the shops are in an alien language and they no longer resemble England then I have to start to ask the following question:

Why do people move here if they have absolutly no interest in being part of the culture?
Why do people move here if they resent large aspects of our culture?

A lad I grew up with for example came from a muslim family. Since finishing his PHd and having moved away from home and thus removed from the "environment" he attitudes have changed vastly. Apart from the fact he is now an apostate he looks at the ghettoised communities run by unelected "elders" with something along the lines of disgust.
I remember his mother barely spoke a word of English as she was locked up in the house most of the day. Can you tell me if this is the kind of society we want to promote in a 21st C nation? I can tell you I sure as hell don't think it is.

Anyway your comment about Christanity etc. is way off track. English culture has evolved over 1000+ years with Christanity having an effect on the laws it has passed through to its music. The fact that the majority of people have more secular views or atheist views is probably down to the advances in science and education.
However somebody such as myself who is not religious still understands the contribution that Christanity has made towards architecture and literature in this country. Even Dawkins would agree with this if you read his books.


Cultures evolve but there is vast difference between a culture evolving and being displaced don't you think?
It is slightly hypocritical to condemn the various countries of Europe for colonialism then defend a micro version of it happening on our own door step.

Anyway immigration and multiculturlism in this country go hand in hand. As a nation we are very tolerant, and as I was suggesting above people have not really had a problem with foreign culture in this country when it contributes to community i.e. resturants and some shops. However when areas of the country go from being English with some foreign influence to unrecognisable then that is when people get their backs up. I will also clarify this by saying it is when the ghettoised areas seem to take a step backwards in the way society there acts.
If you can't understand that then in my opinion it is very worrying.

Also as we have seen if we allow multiculturalism in this country we have some cultures who cause no friction with the existing population e.g. Thai or French immigrants and those whose culture is so far removed and in friction with ours we end up with the ghettoisation I have mentioned above.
What is worst some of these cultures continue to perform such brutal acts as female genitle mutilation.

Multiculturalism is doomed to fail because some cultures are unfortunatly immersed in some petty awful acts and consider these to be morally OK.

I don't want you to think this has anything to do with skin colour either. It is about culture and it is a clash of culture we are experiencing in some of our inner cities. Somebodies skin colour does not dictate their culture, but their upbringing and geographical location does.

Ea of dune
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To add to the above post...

When I advocate an end to our multicultural experiment I am not suggesting we shouldn't have curry houses or Chinese takeaways etc. What I am suggesting is the following:

In England official publications by the government should only be published in English, not 16 different languages (Scotland, Wales etc. can decide what they publish their content in i.e. Cymraeg and Scots etc.)
No more putting signs up in foreign langauges so we can avoid situation like Southhall.
No more public money to support things like the MCB

see: Burning our money: Muslim Council of Britain- Tax Funding

That would be a good start.

Ea of dune
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God Save The Queen....
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Originally Posted by Westyorksherman:
God Save The Queen....

God save the queen
The fascist regime
They made you a moron
Potential H-bomb

God save the queen
She ain't no human being
There is no future
In England's dreaming

Don't be told what you want
Don't be told what you need
There's no future, no future,
No future for you

God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves

God save the queen
'Cause tourists are money
And our figurehead
Is not what she seems

Oh God save history
God save your mad parade
Oh Lord God have mercy
All crimes are paid

When there's no future
How can there be sin
We're the flowers in the dustbin
We're the poison in your human machine
We're the future, your future

God save the queen
We mean it man
We love our queen
God saves

God save the queen
We mean it man
And there is no future
In England's dreaming

No future, no future,
No future for you
No future, no future,
No future for me


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Multiculutralism makes no sense. Either it means that most different cultural groups live largely cut off from each other or it means there will be a "melting pot" of cultures for a time, almost certainly accompanied by great social upheaval and tension and a hybrid culture will emerge.
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Multi ethnic = good idea

Multi cultural= BAD idea.
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