Dissident Congress 11:19 PM 02-08-2008
Anybody involved in strategy planning must look at hypothetical situations in order to devise effective strategies. I previously mentioned the situation that if 9/11 never happened then the EDs would probably be a bigger party and get better election results than the BNP.
Here's another hypothetical situation. Post war immigration never happened and Britain today is just as white as it was in 1945. Let's also assume that most of the other post war British problems happened such as decline in the economy and manufacturing, a loss of tradition, chav culture, a rise in crime and violence, falling moral standards, joining the EU, global free trade and corporate culture, and corruption in politics.
Now what would happen to nationalism? Would the BNP even exist in a country where immigration, race relations, and Islam are non-issues? Would there be any organisations trying to counteract the post war decline and rot?
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blueblood1920 11:56 PM 02-08-2008
Originally Posted by Dissident Congress:
Anybody involved in strategy planning must look at hypothetical situations in order to devise effective strategies. I previously mentioned the situation that if 9/11 never happened then the EDs would probably be a bigger party and get better election results than the BNP.
Here's another hypothetical situation. Post war immigration never happened and Britain today is just as white as it was in 1945. Let's also assume that most of the other post war British problems happened such as decline in the economy and manufacturing, a loss of tradition, chav culture, a rise in crime and violence, falling moral standards, joining the EU, global free trade and corporate culture, and corruption in politics.
Now what would happen to nationalism? Would the BNP even exist in a country where immigration, race relations, and Islam are non-issues? Would there be any organisations trying to counteract the post war decline and rot?
I believe it would exist maybe in a slightly different form, as there is much that the party wants to implement such as National Service, Capital and Corporal Punishment, End of globalisation, Nationalisation of Utilities etc...
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The Nationalist 11:20 AM 03-08-2008
The BNP is not a one topic party and even if there was no immigration it would make no difference and Britain could be equally as divided.
In fact the BNP may already be in power if people did not have any worries about putting them selves first for a change. Hopefully people will realise that the government is using mass immigration to win votes and remove any opposition to fevering there own goals and they really have no interest in the Indigenous population of there suffering.
Eventually the main parties will end up representing the different main groups in Britain and new government and laws will be introduced to best represent them with possible barriers such as in Ireland and Northern Ireland, Cyprus and other states with two or more groups of citizens with conflicting interests.
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blueblood1920 11:41 AM 03-08-2008
We also have the fact that the BNP was opposing the EU before UKIP even existed so the BNP could of been the leading Anti-EU party.
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Dissident Congress 01:25 PM 03-08-2008
Originally Posted by blueblood1920:
We also have the fact that the BNP was opposing the EU before UKIP even existed so the BNP could of been the leading Anti-EU party.
Debatable. Labour in the early 80s were committed to withdrawal from the EU. The Greens in the late 80s were very Eurosceptic and stated they were prepared to withdraw from the EU if they couldn't reform it. In 1990, the Greens were probably the largest and most powerful force in Britain against the EU although few people know this.
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Dissident Congress 01:29 PM 03-08-2008
Originally Posted by The Nationalist:
Eventually the main parties will end up representing the different main groups in Britain and new government and laws will be introduced to best represent them with possible barriers such as in Ireland and Northern Ireland, Cyprus and other states with two or more groups of citizens with conflicting interests.
I have some difficulty believing this because there's only 3 "main parties" and more than 3 significantly large ethnic groups. History has shown that splinter parties from Lib-Lab-Con are infrequent and either don't last long or make little impact.
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The Nationalist 05:10 PM 03-08-2008
But when the main parties do not agree with the introduction of Muslim law and the existence of a Muslim political party that does there will be a divide. When England is no longer majority English the people will vote for a national party like the BNP that serves Christian and English interests.
Eventually different groups are going to want there own representation and there are many cases where Christian states have become Muslim states or had a power sharing deal.
This is one of many videos from American news channels that put things into perspective:
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Dissident Congress 06:47 PM 03-08-2008
Originally Posted by blueblood1920:
I believe it would exist maybe in a slightly different form, as there is much that the party wants to implement such as National Service, Capital and Corporal Punishment, End of globalisation, Nationalisation of Utilities etc...
It would be interesting to see what this different form would be. In approximately what year would the BNP have been founded? Assume that Enoch Powell's Rivers of Blood speech never happened and the NF might not have been formed.
Take into account that the bar on ethnics joining would probably be much less relevant with Joe Public and the media in a nation almost 100% white, and probably just exiled to the small print. This could work in the BNP's favour as racist just isn't a relevant word.
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ANGLO-STAFFS 12:30 AM 04-08-2008
Originally Posted by The Nationalist:
But when the main parties do not agree with the introduction of Muslim law and the existence of a Muslim political party that does there will be a divide. When England is no longer majority English the people will vote for a national party like the BNP that serves Christian and English interests.
Eventually different groups are going to want there own representation and there are many cases where Christian states have become Muslim states or had a power sharing deal.
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2 points.
1). "When England is no longer majority English the people will vote for a national party like the BNP that serves Christian and English interests"?
IF the English are a minority how do the BNP get elected as the majority party?????????
2). When will BNP members learn that there is a difference between English and British????
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The Nationalist 05:15 PM 04-08-2008
There will be several alternatives when a state is on the brink of splitting it will completely split with governments representing each group or it will transfer to benefit the new group or the original group will suppress the new group or a power sharing arrangement will be made. All of these outcomes would be very bad and will lead to lots of violence as this process slowly takes place. Almost all states that had a large influx of Muslim population became a full Muslim state with many of the original groups moving away if they did not want to live under its law. You can not expect a large influx of different groups entering a nation with nothing changing and there is no chance of adaptation unless it is a slow process.
The BNP is not a self serving state and will give independence and democratic representation to all nations. England is a nation in Britain that will eventually want its own parliament and its own right to evolve. It looks like Scotland may be leaving the British state to become independent in the not to distant future so the BNP may end up just representing England, Wales and Northern Ireland.
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