Hunter writes

“I wonder what your son and grandkids think of Muslims, knowing your opinion of them?
Islamaphobic perhaps?”

You see that’s interesting. Because you can’t disassociate an ideology from the people who follow it you then work on the basis of your own limited mental capability.

JTSutherland writes

“It's difficult to know where to start in attacking this ridiculous viewpoint. Do you honestly think that white kids won't encounter hate, prejudice etc simply as a result of your nightmare multiethnic society? Middle-class liberal types aren't filled with 'hate' (except when it's aimed at working class whites) and yet they keep 'diversity' at arms length.

Scummy, leftist collaborators such as yourself can never give a single valid reason why white people should embrace such a society. You describe yourself as 'old'. Is this true? Any chance you'll to croak soon? It'd be a cause for much merriment at the RWB if you could manage it before the weekend.”

Take the now unthinking acceptance of the diverse nature of people in society. The surprising thing is the assumption that younger people by and large do NOT accept diversity of people in all aspects of life especially as regards ethnicity and sexuality. In fact thanks to many years of good work in the past they now do!

It’s the minority, almost invariably held back by the silliness of their parents who still carry the social dissability that will hinder their own lives in their future.

I wonder how many people who preach hatred to their kids would break their legs and leave them physically disabled? Because the disability that is created by instilling hatred of others race or ethnicity or sexual orientation is just as just as crippling but in a social dimension.

Scummy leftist collaborators such as myself can never give a single valid reason why white people should embrace such a society?

What silliness!

What you mean, JTS, is that decent people who reject xenophobia, race hatred, and homophobea present no reasons that the hatemeisters will accept since to do so would require them to admit their own revolting values are utterly wrong.

Why outlaw the BNP? Because it is a force not for good and promotion of a cosmopolitan multi-ethnic society, it is instead singularly undemocratic in form, secretive in nature, and revolting in objectives.

The only way that the BNP is legitimate is that it has not yet been proscribed. I look forward to the day, hopefully now sooner rather than later, when it will be.

As for inculcating kids in such a disgusting ethos that surrounds the BNP and committing child abuse that is as I wrote earlier just as damaging mentally and consequently socially as breaking their legs and leaving them physically crippled, shame on you.

I do feel that the presence of so much BNP presence on this forum is damaging in the extreme to the UKIP, a thing that really should now be taken very seriously.
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Originally Posted by The Bear:
Hunter writes

“I wonder what your son and grandkids think of Muslims, knowing your opinion of them?
Islamaphobic perhaps?”

You see that’s interesting. Because you can’t disassociate an ideology from the people who follow it you then work on the basis of your own limited mental capability.

JTSutherland writes

“It's difficult to know where to start in attacking this ridiculous viewpoint. Do you honestly think that white kids won't encounter hate, prejudice etc simply as a result of your nightmare multiethnic society? Middle-class liberal types aren't filled with 'hate' (except when it's aimed at working class whites) and yet they keep 'diversity' at arms length.

Scummy, leftist collaborators such as yourself can never give a single valid reason why white people should embrace such a society. You describe yourself as 'old'. Is this true? Any chance you'll to croak soon? It'd be a cause for much merriment at the RWB if you could manage it before the weekend.”

Take the now unthinking acceptance of the diverse nature of people in society. The surprising thing is the assumption that younger people by and large do NOT accept diversity of people in all aspects of life especially as regards ethnicity and sexuality. In fact thanks to many years of good work in the past they now do!

It’s the minority, almost invariably held back by the silliness of their parents who still carry the social dissability that will hinder their own lives in their future.

I wonder how many people who preach hatred to their kids would break their legs and leave them physically disabled? Because the disability that is created by instilling hatred of others race or ethnicity or sexual orientation is just as just as crippling but in a social dimension.

Scummy leftist collaborators such as myself can never give a single valid reason why white people should embrace such a society?

What silliness!

What you mean, JTS, is that decent people who reject xenophobia, race hatred, and homophobea present no reasons that the hatemeisters will accept since to do so would require them to admit their own revolting values are utterly wrong.

Why outlaw the BNP? Because it is a force not for good and promotion of a cosmopolitan multi-ethnic society, it is instead singularly undemocratic in form, secretive in nature, and revolting in objectives.

The only way that the BNP is legitimate is that it has not yet been proscribed. I look forward to the day, hopefully now sooner rather than later, when it will be.

As for inculcating kids in such a disgusting ethos that surrounds the BNP and committing child abuse that is as I wrote earlier just as damaging mentally and consequently socially as breaking their legs and leaving them physically crippled, shame on you.

I do feel that the presence of so much BNP presence on this forum is damaging in the extreme to the UKIP, a thing that really should now be taken very seriously.

So basically you can't offer a single advantage to a multi-ethnic society. Not one. On the other hand, the reasons against a multi-ethnic society are many and easily proven, such as ethnic tensions, corrosion of native culture, affirmative action, ethnic crime-rates, race riots, ethnic criminal gangs, ghettoization etc etc.

Your arrogance regarding the banning of the BNP for not promoting a "cosmopolitan multi-ethnic society" is as sick as it is disturbing. It's you who hates the different ethnic groups because you want to eliminate them by mixing them all together. You really have lost the plot, you silly old b*stard.
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Originally Posted by JTSutherland:
So basically you can't offer a single advantage to a multi-ethnic society. Not one. On the other hand, the reasons against a multi-ethnic society are many and easily proven, such as ethnic tensions, corrosion of native culture, affirmative action, ethnic crime-rates, race riots, ethnic criminal gangs, ghettoization etc etc.

Where did I say that I couldn’t offer a single advantage to a multi-ethnic society? I can offer many advantages!

Originally Posted by JTSutherland:
Your arrogance regarding the banning of the BNP for not promoting a "cosmopolitan multi-ethnic society" is as sick as it is disturbing. It's you who hates the different ethnic groups because you want to eliminate them by mixing them all together. You really have lost the plot, you silly old b*stard.

I do sincerely want and hope soon to see the BNP put into the state of illegality that is so rightly should be, but that’s not simply because it doesn’t promote a cosmopolitan multi-ethnic society alone.

It’s because it’s a nasty loathsome anti social hate promoting parody of a democratic party that supports and self evidently is supported by in many cases nasty loathsome hateful people.

In addition the BNP presents in “large Print” what some people of the country want to see presented, whilst keeping in tiny print, sometimes writ black on black, that which describes its other deeply unpleasant and deeply disturbing other face.

As for different ethnic groups, I don’t hate different ethnic groups, I actually hate very little, and the idea of creating a single ethnicity is simply that it is the obvious evolutionary step for mankind to take, from a number of races of homo sapiens to a single race of homo-neo-sapiens. A man who incorporates all of the strengths that each race has developed during their own evolutionary trail in different environments together.

Have I lost the plot?

That rather depends on which plot you mean.

If you man the tribal “own race focused” plot that sees all other races as those to be exploited or avoided but never associated with much less to interbreed with, then yes, I’m delighted to say that’s a plot that I most certainly have lost. In fact it’s a plot that I never even possessed.

If you mean the “Britain is a WHITE nation and should e returned to that” then yes, that also is a plot that I have lost I’m delighted to say. In fact it’s also a plot that I never even possessed.

In fact all racist and nationalist oriented plots I have lost and that makes me not some inferior being, but actually a very much better man and a very much better person all round than the nasty racist scum who have not “lost the plot”.
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I see that this thread has degenerated into the usual mire.

The issue is a very simple one, which is whether it is a legitimate tactic for candidates to 'out' the signatories for their opponents.

Legally speaking the names are in the public domain anyway so unless the leaflet could be shown to be inciting violence against individuals it is not likely to be a legal issue.

However, it does look as though it is trying to bully people by 'exposing' them to public condemnation, problems with their employers or worse. I do not accept that this is a legitimate political tactic against people who may not be 'political' at all - indeed, may not even vote for the BNP but have simply agreed to sign the nomination papers.

As long as the BNP is a legally constituted political party it is entitled to participate in the democratic process whatever anyone thinks of its policies, ideology or personnel. The Bear may think that the BNP should be proscribed but that is only his opinion and until the law agrees with him the BNP should be treated like any other party in terms of the electoral process.

As a matter of fact, some 59 organisations have been proscribed under anti-terrorism legislation. If there was any specific legal justification for proscribing the BNP I'm sure it would have happened by now.
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Originally Posted by kernow:
I'm no BNP supporter and never will be, but they are a legitimate political party and should be treated as such!

That is the point. In a supposed democracy a legitimate political party has every right to be allowed to compete equally and fairly, without anyone like the appropriately named Mr Dungworth trying to "out" those who express their support for a candidate's right to stand in an election.

I see Mr Bear has resorted, yet again, to using the usual tired old epithets in describing an event that he has not attended. As for children being "exposed" to certain nasty political beliefs, like support for the family, their people and their culture, I suggest you should be far more concerned with the insidious marxist brainwashing of our children in schools.

Most of the children will actually be busy playing on the fairground rides, or in sports competitions, face painting and exploring the countryside with their mums and dads. Shocking isn't it?:-)
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Originally Posted by The Bear:
Hunter writes

I do feel that the presence of so much BNP presence on this forum is damaging in the extreme to the UKIP, a thing that really should now be taken very seriously.

UKIP, unlike you, belives in democracy. It therefore belives in Free Speech etc. Standing firm on these principiles can only strengthen, not weaken UKIP.

BTW, after the BNP, who next would you like to see banned?
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Originally Posted by The Bear:
Where did I say that I couldn’t offer a single advantage to a multi-ethnic society? I can offer many advantages!

Oh please share them with us all, you little tease. Come on, spill the beans.

Anyhow, I'm sure the opening ceremony of London's 'budget' 2012 Olympic games will show the Chinese a thing or two about 'diversity' and what they're missing out on. I heard that the Chinese audience were secretly hoping for belligerent gangsta rappers and pimps to represent their nation and were bitterly disappointed when the opening ceremony concentrated on Chinese culture instead.
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Originally Posted by The Bear:
As for different ethnic groups, I don’t hate different ethnic groups, I actually hate very little, and the idea of creating a single ethnicity is simply that it is the obvious evolutionary step for mankind to take, from a number of races of homo sapiens to a single race of homo-neo-sapiens. A man who incorporates all of the strengths that each race has developed during their own evolutionary trail in different environments together.

Complete and utter rubbish. This is actually beyond ludicrous. Firstly, evolution happens when a members of a species diverge genetically, not converge. If that had always happened since day one we'd still only have one species on the planet. If we all mix up it'll undo all the genetic diversity in the human species. If your idea had any merit whatsoever we'd see mixed race, brown people at the top of society. Guess what - we don't.

Secondly, please explain how your idiotic idea about 'incorporating strengths' won't incorporate weaknesses too.

Now, please list the 'strengths' and 'weaknesses' of each ethnic group which you've said exist.

And if you really wanted to do your bit for mankind's evolution then you shouldn't have had any children.

You're not the full ticket, are you Mr Bear.
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Infraction for JTS. No personal insults please.
Link to BNP removed - no pro otion of BNP websites permitted.
Hope the weather improves for you at RWB this weekend!
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Originally Posted by JTSutherland:

And if you really wanted to do your bit for mankind's evolution then you shouldn't have had any children.

You're not the full ticket, are you Mr Bear.

That's a bit rough. It's one thing to disagree with a man; quite another to imply that he is genetically disqualified from having kids merely because he holds a different point of view.

All the same, I wonder if Mr Bear has been mixing the races. It would explain his ferociity on this topic - as perhaps nothing else would.
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Originally Posted by The Bear:
Hunter writes

“I wonder what your son and grandkids think of Muslims, knowing your opinion of them?
Islamaphobic perhaps?”

You see that’s interesting. Because you can’t disassociate an ideology from the people who follow it you then work on the basis of your own limited mental capability.

JTSutherland writes

“It's difficult to know where to start in attacking this ridiculous viewpoint. Do you honestly think that white kids won't encounter hate, prejudice etc simply as a result of your nightmare multiethnic society? Middle-class liberal types aren't filled with 'hate' (except when it's aimed at working class whites) and yet they keep 'diversity' at arms length.

Scummy, leftist collaborators such as yourself can never give a single valid reason why white people should embrace such a society. You describe yourself as 'old'. Is this true? Any chance you'll to croak soon? It'd be a cause for much merriment at the RWB if you could manage it before the weekend.”

Take the now unthinking acceptance of the diverse nature of people in society. The surprising thing is the assumption that younger people by and large do NOT accept diversity of people in all aspects of life especially as regards ethnicity and sexuality. In fact thanks to many years of good work in the past they now do!

It’s the minority, almost invariably held back by the silliness of their parents who still carry the social dissability that will hinder their own lives in their future.

I wonder how many people who preach hatred to their kids would break their legs and leave them physically disabled? Because the disability that is created by instilling hatred of others race or ethnicity or sexual orientation is just as just as crippling but in a social dimension.

Scummy leftist collaborators such as myself can never give a single valid reason why white people should embrace such a society?

What silliness!

What you mean, JTS, is that decent people who reject xenophobia, race hatred, and homophobea present no reasons that the hatemeisters will accept since to do so would require them to admit their own revolting values are utterly wrong.

Why outlaw the BNP? Because it is a force not for good and promotion of a cosmopolitan multi-ethnic society, it is instead singularly undemocratic in form, secretive in nature, and revolting in objectives.

The only way that the BNP is legitimate is that it has not yet been proscribed. I look forward to the day, hopefully now sooner rather than later, when it will be.

As for inculcating kids in such a disgusting ethos that surrounds the BNP and committing child abuse that is as I wrote earlier just as damaging mentally and consequently socially as breaking their legs and leaving them physically crippled, shame on you.

I do feel that the presence of so much BNP presence on this forum is damaging in the extreme to the UKIP, a thing that really should now be taken very seriously.

“I wonder what your son and grandkids think of Muslims, knowing your opinion of them?
Islamaphobic perhaps?”

"You see that’s interesting. Because you can’t disassociate an ideology from the people who follow it you then work on the basis of your own limited mental capability."

Bit like you eh Bear.
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