Originally Posted by whypatcondellisntfun:
I reckon that you have not the knowledge to discuss your claims that Allah orders the death of all unbelievers. Let us set that to one side though.

If we take your assertion at face value (which anybody with a modicum of knowledge about Islam would not do) the BNP is a very Christian organisation, they are not therefore 'unbelievers', so we must discount the possibility that it was an Islamic plan to kill unbelievers.

Do you have a second hypothesis?

The semi official region of the BNP is pseudo Norse mysticism/Ancestor worship. Not Christianity.

On another subject, when exactly were you made Muslim Pope Condell?
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Originally Posted by whypatcondellisntfun:
I do not condone terrorism of any kind, but one must ask why these people felt the need to do what they seemed to be about to do?

Probably thought free education, free health care, freedom of religion and the almost insane level of tolerance shown toward settlers such as he by the indigenous population wasn't enough. Perhaps he thought he was also entitled to £170k in benefits and was a bit miffed that the school he went to was only 85% Asian. Who knows what motivates the oppressed?
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Originally Posted by Wowbanger TIP:
The semi official region of the BNP is pseudo Norse mysticism/Ancestor worship. Not Christianity.

How peculiar. Why then, in the 2005 manifesto, does it say this:-

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We will ensure that appropriate areas of public life, including school assemblies, are based on a commitment to the values of traditional Westernised Christianity. Levels of religiosity have always fluctuated in Britain, and while our great inheritance of cathedrals, churches and liturgies has less resonance with the broad mass of the population at present, the wheel of faith will one day turn again and they will be fully valued once more.

BNP 2005 Manifesto - Page 22

Has the BNP as an organisation undergone a major religious transformation since 2005? No. At the very recent YBNP gun training and political indocrination camp (there was gun training and there was political indoctrination so lets leave it there, hey?), there was a Sunday service, as we were told on the BNP site.

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On the Sunday, after the church service, Jonathan Bowden, one of the party’s best thinkers, gave a talk to selected students, both young and old on nationalist politics.

I mentioned this here:

Originally Posted by whypatcondellisntfun:
Let us first look at the BNP side to this story. It can be found here:

British National Party - Regional News | YBNP Annual Camp 2008

But the link to the BNP site doesn't seem to work anymore... can't think why that would be.

If that wasn't enough, the official BNP RWB song book includes 'Jerusalem' which tells us of the holy Lamb of God (that would be Jesus, pbuh). If you need to see it, recommend me a good file host which lets you upload PDF files.

All in all, unless you are saying that the BNP are some form of crypto-religious organisation, hiding it's true religion from plain sight, then I would say you are categorically wrong. And if you are saying that the BNP is publicly telling porkies about the religion it supports, then how are we expected to treat its stand on any other matter?

Originally Posted by Wowbanger TIP:
On another subject, when exactly were you made Muslim Pope Condell?

As I'm sure you know, Islam has what I think you have previously termed a 'terrorist cell' like nature, and, therefore, I am my own religious authority, as I believe every Muslim should be. I do not need anything or anyone, least of all a hierarchy of priests to intercede between myself and God.
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Originally Posted by Popeye:
Probably thought free education, free health care, freedom of religion and the almost insane level of tolerance shown toward settlers such as he by the indigenous population wasn't enough. Perhaps he thought he was also entitled to £170k in benefits and was a bit miffed that the school he went to was only 85% Asian. Who knows what motivates the oppressed?

Let us assume that even in your facetiousness (yes, I had to resort to spell checker for that one) you are correct, why did they pick the BNP, of all possible targets, and not, say, the Labour party, or the Lib Dems, or UKIP, or general innocent bystanders as seems to be the usual mode of terrorists - whatever religion or political party they hail from.

By all means, condemn them for terrorist activity, but then, to not try to understand the underlying motivations for it, well, that seems strange to me. They may well be nutters, but I don't think that has been mentioned at all.
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To try to understand the underlying reasons for one person to blow up another because of a political dissagreement shows that these people are like there religion 400 years behind us.Indeed we did these things 400 years ago,but since then we have moved on from being savages ,which is what these people who live and move among us are.They are people who have an alien religion and way of life,and hey let us take the gloves off,a lot of people are coming to the opinion should not live amongst us.You can pontificate has much as you like wpcif,but thats how it is.Economic migrants who are here not because of any love for us,they are here because we are stupid enough to allow it.Maybe not forever though.Btw have you heard the report police dogs have to wear bootees on there feet if they go into certain houses,for fear of offending someone,explain that one away clever clogs.
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Terror accused 'had BNP bomb plot' - Dewsbury Reporter
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Originally Posted by alfred the great:
To try to understand the underlying reasons for one person to blow up another because of a political dissagreement shows that these people are like there religion 400 years behind us.

Is war not essentially simply a violent extension of a political disagreement? Communism Vs Capitalism = Cold War, for instance.

Originally Posted by alfred the great:
Economic migrants who are here not because of any love for us,they are here because we are stupid enough to allow it.

There is no indication that the people involved in this plot are economic migrants, it is more likely that they were born here and have been exposed to the British way of life, educational system and media like everyone else.

Originally Posted by alfred the great:
Btw have you heard the report police dogs have to wear bootees on there feet if they go into certain houses,for fear of offending someone,explain that one away clever clogs.

I don't need to explain it. If the police have reason to suspect you are engaged in criminal activity and wish to search your house and they bring in dogs for whatever reason then I'm sorry but that is hard cheese my friend.

Why do you call me 'clever clogs' in a derogatory fashion? I don't think I'm particularly clever, but a modicum of common sense and the willingness to ascertain and retain facts beyond the average 15 second soundbite projected by the media or extremist propaganda merchants helps I find.
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Originally Posted by whypatcondellisntfun:
I do not condone terrorism of any kind, but one must ask why these people felt the need to do what they seemed to be about to do?

Perhaps we should also ask all those poor people who mug, rape , murder and molest children why they do what they do?
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WPCIF,If you read my post ,the sarcastic point i was making was why should police dogs have to wear bootees when they go in to certain peoples houses.This is seen has pandering to ethnic minorities,and looked on has barmy by anyone with common sense,in the same way has people in the workplace who can not eat there food in front of muslems who are fasting,once again pandering to minorities who do not wish to integrate.Also if you are right in saying these people have been born here ok,i digress ,they are then sons and daughters of economic migrants who have come here since the passing of the british nationality act in 1947.Once again there loyalty is only to there own.
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They don't belong here.
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