Originally Posted by Wowbanger TIP:
And how much publicity would it have got if the BNP had actually endorsed Obama instead of making childish joke about it which relied on the fact that there was no way the BNP would support a black guy for president for the "punchline", such as it was, to work?

Moreover how much would such publicity have been worth in rebranding the Party and ditching the racist thing?

If Mr. Obama was white but still wanted to destroy the American dream of "hard work = success" and replace it with "here have some money that we have stolen from the people who have tried their best and succeeded" i am fairly confident that the BNP would still have been making fun of him.
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Originally Posted by Sprite:
If Mr. Obama was white but still wanted to destroy the American dream of "hard work = success" and replace it with "here have some money that we have stolen from the people who have tried their best and succeeded" i am fairly confident that the BNP would still have been making fun of him.

If Obama wished to destroy the powerful American work ethic in favour of simple redistribution of wealth he would have been wrong.

But why do you think the BNP have made fun of him for it?
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Originally Posted by Wowbanger TIP:
And how much publicity would it have got if the BNP had actually endorsed Obama instead of making childish joke about it which relied on the fact that there was no way the BNP would support a black guy for president for the "punchline", such as it was, to work?

Moreover how much would such publicity have been worth in rebranding the Party and ditching the racist thing?

Absolutely. It's as though it is considered OK just to tiptoe a few inches in the right direction but never to take bold confident steps.

Which is a shame really, since we haven't got much time left.
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Originally Posted by Sprite:
If Mr. Obama was white but still wanted to destroy the American dream of "hard work = success" and replace it with "here have some money that we have stolen from the people who have tried their best and succeeded" i am fairly confident that the BNP would still have been making fun of him.

Oh Right, and McCain and the Republicans get the BNP's seal of approval do they?

The BNP, as a fairly left wing party in many respects, have at least as much in common with the Democrats as they do the Republicans.

All of which was irrelevant considering the BNP have no ideological commitment preventing them from backing Obama and a hell of a lot to gain by doing so.
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Originally Posted by London Orbital:
Absolutely. It's as though it is considered OK just to tiptoe a few inches in the right direction but never to take bold confident steps.

Which is a shame really, since we haven't got much time left.

Extraordinary, a BNP supporter might just be starting to get it, perhaps all hope is not gone after all.
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Originally Posted by Wowbanger TIP:
Extraordinary, a BNP supporter might just be starting to get it, perhaps all hope is not gone after all.

I've had a go at stating the position in more detail here:

http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/comp...tml#post554810
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Now that media driven euphoria about Obama's election has started thankfully to abate, the reality of what America has done is starting to sink in. First of all America has not elected a black president it has elected a mixed race one, but as we know in PC land just a hint of non-white enables you to join the mass of humanity that is a victim complete with your own race card to play.

America voted against George Bush and the chance of getting out of the mess in Iraq. It voted for a man who evinced far more charisma than his opponent, an opponent who appreared tired and stale and offered nothing new. It wanted change and decided that the Democrats were a better alternative than the Republicans.

However, how many political commentators discussed Obama's policies, and how his administration would deal with the all important spehere of foreign relations? Few of course, and now in the cold reality of day the Dow Jones has led the way by dropping like a stone again, on the realisation that it will be business or rather a decline in business as usual albeit with a few little trims here and there.

Strangely the liberals and the white suprecamists had one things in common during this election and it was an endless and tiresome monologue about a black man in the White House. Maybe now the scrutiny will fall on reality, economics, and the issues that will affect all Americans and indeed everyone else in the World.
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I am a BNP supporter and I would not be much happier if McCain won.

Policy wise we are more economically inline with Obama and he does have some policies I support but many I don’t.

The idea of an individual influencing the world no matter the political beliefs is frightening. The speeches often included I want to change the world and the use of protectionist or nationalist economics will obviously impact the global economy that we are currently forced to rely on.

I would be undecided if I was in America and I don’t think the legacy of G W Bush was something to support. America needed a change but it was a shame the elections were so influenced by race in which over 80 of black people did not want to vote for a white man.
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Originally Posted by The Nationalist:
I am a BNP supporter and I would not be much happier if McCain won.

Policy wise we are more economically inline with Obama and he does have some policies I support but many I don’t.

The idea of an individual influencing the world no matter the political beliefs is frightening. The speeches often included I want to change the world and the use of protectionist or nationalist economics will obviously impact the global economy that we are currently forced to rely on.

I would be undecided if I was in America and I don’t think the legacy of G W Bush was something to support. America needed a change but it was a shame the elections were so influenced by race in which over 80 of black people did not want to vote for a white man.

I believe the figures relating to the black vote were something like 97% Obama, 3% McCain, presumably there was a 3% margin of error of that one.
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Originally Posted by HM:
Does "favouring" include the heavy attacks the BNP just put in the aforementioned article?! Maybe they'd have been wiser not making a token gesture towards the black candidate to get a bit of positive press in the Sun (which most of its voters probably read).

Read?

The Sun uses words?
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