An interesting question has been raised by the Stannary Parliament here. If the Crown Estate, as ultimate owner, is responsible for the foreshore and natural coastline of England then who currently takes responsibilty for the protection of the Cornish foreshore considering that the Duchy of Cornwall is the ultimate owner of said foreshore? The Duchy certainly doesn't seem to!

Stannary Complaint: Cornish Stannary Parliament Archives - Complaint – The exclusion of Cornwall from the Marine Stewardship project and the Marine Communities Fund of the Crown Estate.

Article in this weeks St. Ives Times and Echo:

Although most of the foreshore around the UK is crown property this is not the case in Cornwall where the rights have been ceded to The Duchy of Cornwall: "The Crown Estate has no holdings within the boundaries of Cornwall. Foreshore and other properties that would, in most Counties, be the property of the Crown Estate are, in Cornwall, not owned by the Crown Estate," confirmed Tim Riley, the Crown Estate Librarian, in January 2005.

Under the Articles of Agreement between the Crown and the Duchy of Cornwall, made law by the Cornwall Submarine Mines Act 1958, the mineral rights beneath the foreshore were assigned to the Duke of Cornwall. The legal position was confirmed: "The Duchy of Cornwallis vested in the Prince of Wales (who is) entitled to the annual income," by the Prime Minister and recorded in Hansard (27 March 1996).

In its complaint to GOSW the Stannary Parliament claims that "The Duke of Cornwall does not offer a Marine Stewardship Project or a Marine Communities Fund as might be reasonably be expected of the owner of the foreshore of Cornwall in light of the Crown Estates example."

"Recent meetings of the "Save our Sand Hayle" and the "Hayle Towans Partnership"
have expressed serious concern at the accelerating depletion of sand caused by commercial exploitation, yet have not contacted the Crown Estate or the Duchy of Cornwall as a landowner," writes E.R. Nute, keeper of the Stannary Parliament's seal.

In it's lengthy letter, which quotes many legal extracts drawing attention to the Duchy's ownership of Cornwall's foreshore, the Parliament complains that: "Clear administrative responsibilities are, however, not immediately apparent," and adds that Cornwall County Council is expected, "Not to take away any of the rights, powers, privelidges or authority of the Duchy of Cornwall, under section 50 of the Cornwall County Council Act 1981."

As a consequence the Stannary Parliament is asking GOSW: "Who is legally responsible for ensuring the protection and survival of the foreshore and natural coastline of Cornwall in compliance with European Union Decisions and Directives....?"
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Originally Posted by omsav:
Who's responsible for Cornwalls coast?

God?

Forces of nature?

:-)
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The self-appointed 'Stannary Parliament' is a wholly bogus outfit as it wasn't covened by the Lord Warden of the Stannaries. I entirely sympathise with its views of the constitutional perculiarities of Cornwall, however, which is, essentially the personal fiefdom of the Duke of Cornwall with the power to block Westminster legislation. What business has Wales, a region of England officially annexed in by1536, in having an expensive and pointless 'Assembly' whilst Cornwall, an historically autonomous part of Britain, continues to be dismissed with the same old emasculated local government talking shops?
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Wales has an international rugby team - Cornwall doesn't. In a nutshell :-)
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Speaking of nutshells,Cornwall would fit into one,comfortably.
The Stanary is non existent to the general community conscious Cornwallians who are the workers of Cornwall,Stanaryites all mainly cider guzzling pish heads,aren't they?
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Originally Posted by Northumbrian:
Wales has an international rugby team - Cornwall doesn't. In a nutshell :-)

According to wikipedia, Wales lost their first match against England by 7 goals, 1 dropped goal and 6 tries to nil. International team now or not, if we are to measure nationhood by rugby, Wales certainly wasn't a nation in 1881.

Welsh nationalism in general is a nauseating 20th century phenomenon. It simply didn't exist beforehand: and their little bit of England was perfectly content with itself, even after the Council of the Marches was done away with.
Cornish nationalism is to some extent, too, of course, but at least the cornish have an very sound constitutional argument. The welsh certainly don't.
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Originally Posted by Gillespie:
Welsh nationalism in general is a nauseating 20th century phenomenon. It simply didn't exist beforehand: and their little bit of England was perfectly content with itself, even after the Council of the Marches was done away with.

I know I shouldn't rise to it, but this is a bizarre assertion. If there was no Welsh nationalism before the 20th century, how do you explain for example the movement to colonize Patagonia in the 1860s?

Welsh settlement in Argentina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by :
First settlers 1865


Coast of Gaiman
The idea of a Welsh colony in South America was put forward by Professor Michael D. Jones, a nationalist non-conformist preacher based in Bala who had called for a new "little Wales beyond Wales". He spent some years in the United States, where he observed that Welsh immigrants assimilated very quickly compared to other peoples and often lost much of their Welsh identity. He proposed setting up a Welsh-speaking colony away from the influence of English. He recruited settlers and provided financing. Australia, New Zealand and even Palestine were considered, but Patagonia was chosen for its isolation and the Argentines' apparently generous offer of 100 square miles (260 km˛) of land along the Chubut River in exchange for settling the still-unconquered land of Patagonia for Argentina.

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Originally Posted by Keyser Soze:
Speaking of nutshells,Cornwall would fit into one,comfortably.

So? Size is not everything. Small is beautiful as a wise man once said.

Originally Posted by :
The Stanary is non existent to the general community conscious Cornwallians who are the workers of Cornwall,Stanaryites all mainly cider guzzling pish heads,aren't they?

Are you Cornish?

60% of Cornwallians want an assembly.
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Originally Posted by Northumbrian:
Wales has an international rugby team - Cornwall doesn't. In a nutshell :-)

You forgot what those on English high streets think, that is an important constitutional argument as well :-).
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Originally Posted by Gillespie:
Cornish nationalism is to some extent, too, of course, but at least the cornish have an very sound constitutional argument. The welsh certainly don't.

But the Welsh have their own language, and that is one of the criteria for nationhood.
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