Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov:
They are still dead politicians walking though....

That is what many in the Labour Party opposition said about the Conservative Party before both the 1987 and 1992 General Elections when Labour leader Neil Kinnock had a double-figure opinion poll lead. As we know, Labour went on to lose those General Elections with the Conservatives securing huge majorities in both (in the second one the Labour oppposition were well ahead in some opinion polls the day before people voted).

Although the Cameron-Conservatives currently have a large national opinion poll lead, the Conservative vote has actually gone down in some recent local council ward By-Elections.
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Yes, he is another very dodgy one and a committed Marxist. The only trouble is it seems to take the electorate at least 6 months to figure these things out. It was the same deal with Brown. Despite being in the government for 10 years they all thought it would mean the government would change for the better. Even so it wont save them but it may give them a fair few more seats in opposition. I suppose now Labour will just try and get through as much damaging legislation as possible before they get booted out and then blame the recession on the Tories. One good thing is the Liberal Democrats look like they are getting squeezed out a bit. I suppose the public now hate them for not voting for a referendum.
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Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov:
One good thing is the Liberal Democrats look like they are getting squeezed out a bit. I suppose the public now hate them for not voting for a referendum.

Yes - hopefully the europhile Liberal Dims (Liberal 'Dems') will get heavily 'squeezed' :-) at the next General Election. They are definitely going to lose some seats in the House of Commons at the next General Election whatever happens - and the more Labour, the Conservatives and UKIP 'squeeze' them the more constituencies will vote out Liberal 'Dem' MPs :-).

The Liberal 'Democrats' - the political arm of the EU in the UK - deserve nothing less :-).
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My eurosceptic Conservative MP David Heathcoat-Amory was in the local this week describing the Irish decision as showing "great courage and independence" and that they have spoken for all of us. He says he will be arguing for "fundamental reform" of the EU in the House of Commons later this week.
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Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov:
My eurosceptic Conservative MP David Heathcoat-Amory was in the local this week describing the Irish decision as showing "great courage and independence" and that they have spoken for all of us. He says he will be arguing for "fundamental reform" of the EU in the House of Commons later this week.

Well sadly he's not gonna get what wants of the EU then is.
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Mind you it's all pressure to get the House of Commons to adjust its position. He's been an MP for 25 years now so he has quite a bit of influence and Cameron tends not to argue with him. He spoke up about nuclear power and attacked Brown about it even though Cameron is a greenie and if let be, would probably settle for windmills. The party needs people like him to keep it eurosceptic and it seems they are heading in that direction. The consensus is shifting.
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Originally Posted by Britannist:
Yes - good isn't it :-).

Not really despite there faults they are better than the other two main parties.
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