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Elections and Candidates>Arrow valley East, Worcestershire CC, 17/7
ANGLO-STAFFS 12:14 AM 23-07-2008

Originally Posted by blueblood1920:
Can you provide us with the turnout and the number of votes for the other parties as well so we can take the whole thing into proper context.

TWIST THE FACTS AS YOU LIKE, IT IS NOT GROWTH.

WINYATES. MAY 2006. Turnout 2835, 44%

BNP. 890. 31.4%.
LAB. 878. 31.0%
CON. 613. 21.6%
L. D. 454. 16.0%

WINYATES. MAY 2007. Turnout 2781, 43%

L. D. 836.30.1%
LAB. 791. 28.4%
BNP. 600. 21.6%
CON. 490. 17.6%
IND. 64. 2.3%

WINYATES. MAY 2008. Turnout 2501, 39%

L. D. 791. 31.6%
CON. 675. 27.0%
BNP. 549. 21.9%
LAB. 486. 19.4%

ARROW VALLEY, (WINYATES + 2 OTHER WARDS) JULY 2008. Turnout 3393, 20%

CON. 1437. 42.2%
LAB. 1041. 30.6%
L. D. 455. 13.4%
BNP. 367. 10.8%
IND. 103. 3.0%

MAY 2006 1st PLACE
MAY 2007 3rd PLACE
MAY 2008 3rd PLACE
JULY 2008 4th PLACE
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Wowbanger TIP 12:50 AM 23-07-2008
Of course it is growth comrade. Do you not know that the Party can never be wrong/beaten/improved? Do not listen to the words of subversives, they are the sowers of doubt and are enemies of the Revolution! Faith is what is needed, not fact. Look how many tractors have been built this month, a new record!
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whypatcondellisntfun 10:42 AM 23-07-2008

Originally Posted by Wowbanger TIP:
This is the only context you need to know about.

icBirmingham - BNP candidate: I'm no Nazi

Thank you for the link. I note that at that time the BNP candidate said:

Originally Posted by :
I have only been in the BNP for a year. I am not a racist. I have Jamaican and Asian friends and a Polish employee.

Interesting to see that a BNP member can contest an election for the party after a mere year of service to the cause, and yet, may not vote for a new leader or ask for a change in the constitution of the BNP until having served at least 2 consecutive years as a member and been signed up for the 3rd consecutive year.

Apparently, to keep out state assets/muslim fanatics/far-left operatives* the 2 year membership system before getting any voting rights is enough to halt them in their steps, but all one has to do to become a BNP party candidate for election (one might view this as a position in which one is more able to cause damage to the party then being simply a member) is to be a member for a year.

Such perfect logic.

* Delete as appropriate
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Shaun 01:08 PM 23-07-2008

Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS:
TWIST THE FACTS AS YOU LIKE, IT IS NOT GROWTH.

WINYATES. MAY 2006. Turnout 2835, 44%

BNP. 890. 31.4%.
LAB. 878. 31.0%
CON. 613. 21.6%
L. D. 454. 16.0%

WINYATES. MAY 2007. Turnout 2781, 43%

L. D. 836.30.1%
LAB. 791. 28.4%
BNP. 600. 21.6%
CON. 490. 17.6%
IND. 64. 2.3%

WINYATES. MAY 2008. Turnout 2501, 39%

L. D. 791. 31.6%
CON. 675. 27.0%
BNP. 549. 21.9%
LAB. 486. 19.4%

ARROW VALLEY, (WINYATES + 2 OTHER WARDS) JULY 2008. Turnout 3393, 20%

CON. 1437. 42.2%
LAB. 1041. 30.6%
L. D. 455. 13.4%
BNP. 367. 10.8%
IND. 103. 3.0%

MAY 2006 1st PLACE
MAY 2007 3rd PLACE
MAY 2008 3rd PLACE
JULY 2008 4th PLACE

Enderby is a councillor on Redditch Council and the B.N.P vote in a by-election in Redditch last week was 300 votes(18.5%),on a low turnout.This was another Borough result,not a county council one.
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ANGLO-STAFFS 07:58 PM 23-07-2008

Originally Posted by Shaun:
Enderby is a councillor on Redditch Council and the B.N.P vote in a by-election in Redditch last week was 300 votes(18.5%),on a low turnout.This was another Borough result,not a county council one.

OK!

I know Enderby is a councillor, he was elected to Winyates ward in 2006.
Winyates ward is 1 3rd of Arrow valley East.
This thread is about Arrow Valley East.
I was pointing out that the BNP vote in Winyates is declining. Which it is.

Last weeks election was in Batchley ward, nothing to do with Winyates or Arrow Valley.

But just out of interest the BNP have onle contested Batchley twice. 2007 and last week.

BNP 2007 Batchley ward 20.1%
BNP 2008 Batchley ward 18.5%

Yes it was on a low turnout. But it was the same for all parties.
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Shaun 01:40 PM 24-07-2008

Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS:
OK!

I know Enderby is a councillor, he was elected to Winyates ward in 2006.
Winyates ward is 1 3rd of Arrow valley East.
This thread is about Arrow Valley East.
I was pointing out that the BNP vote in Winyates is declining. Which it is.

Last weeks election was in Batchley ward, nothing to do with Winyates or Arrow Valley.

But just out of interest the BNP have onle contested Batchley twice. 2007 and last week.

BNP 2007 Batchley ward 20.1%
BNP 2008 Batchley ward 18.5%

Yes it was on a low turnout. But it was the same for all parties.

If you think a County Council result is comparable with a Borough one,then fine- I'll leave you to it.
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Wowbanger TIP 03:00 PM 24-07-2008

Originally Posted by Shaun:
If you think a County Council result is comparable with a Borough one,then fine- I'll leave you to it.

The BNP are in terminal decline all over the West Mids, Birmingham has lost 10,000 votes or a third in two years, (2006/8). Sandwell have lost half their four councilors, Solihull lost its only ward twice since 2006 and the Smith's Wood debacle was a classic example of the Party's primitive tactical sense. Only Stoke in the far North has maintained it vote and only in Bedworth has the Party progressed, thanks to one extraordinary individual and his dedicated group.

This result merely reflects this.

West Midlands organiser? Simon Darby.
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Shaun 03:35 PM 24-07-2008

Originally Posted by Wowbanger TIP:
The BNP are in terminal decline all over the West Mids, Birmingham has lost 10,000 votes or a third in two years, (2006/8). Sandwell have lost half their four councilors, Solihull lost its only ward twice since 2006 and the Smith's Wood debacle was a classic example of the Party's primitive tactical sense. Only Stoke in the far North has maintained it vote and only in Bedworth has the Party progressed, thanks to one extraordinary individual and his dedicated group.

This result merely reflects this.

West Midlands organiser? Simon Darby.

There was a thread on this forum many months ago asking if the BNP was in meltdown?
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ANGLO-STAFFS 06:35 PM 24-07-2008

Originally Posted by Shaun:
There was a thread on this forum many months ago asking if the BNP was in meltdown?

So? I is just a mater of meltdown speed.

OK ignore the county seat, even YOU can't argue the fact that in 2006 the BNP won Winyates but since then they have come nowhere near that figure or won either of the other two seats in Winyates.
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Shaun 01:17 PM 25-07-2008

Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS:
So? I is just a mater of meltdown speed.

OK ignore the county seat, even YOU can't argue the fact that in 2006 the BNP won Winyates but since then they have come nowhere near that figure or won either of the other two seats in Winyates.

I thought you reminded me that this thread was about the County Council result;now you ask me to ignore it.

As you have included elections that are not borough ones here's another one.
Labour hold off BNP's by-election challenge (From The Northern Echo)
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