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Elections and Candidates>Maldon North, Maldon DC 7/8/08
Vortex 01:30 PM 06-08-2008
Candidates

Tony Shrimpton (Conservative)
Leonard Blain (British National Party)
Janet Carden (Green)
Geoffrey Harris (UKIP)
David Parsons (Independent)
Paul Rew (Independent)
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Vortex 02:38 PM 07-08-2008
Update 7 August 14.40pm

I have now discovered that David Parsons, Independent has withdrawn, and that Geoffrey Harris while still standing has not been endorsed by UKIP. Perhaps someone from UKIP can elighten us on this.
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Independent UKIP 11:35 PM 07-08-2008

Originally Posted by Vortex:
Update 7 August 14.40pm

I have now discovered that David Parsons, Independent has withdrawn, and that Geoffrey Harris while still standing has not been endorsed by UKIP. Perhaps someone from UKIP can elighten us on this.

Writing personally, as always:

http://www.maldon.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyre.../Nominated.pdf

This is dated 15th July and shows Mr Harris without any party description. Perhaps you could tell us why, several weeks later, you stated that he was a UKIP candidate? Thanks. And yes I do know that a Geoffrey Harris was a UKIP candidate in the area in 2001.
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ANGLO-STAFFS 12:17 AM 08-08-2008
Maldon district council: Maldon North ward

Tory 339
Green 200
IND 115
BNP 107
IND (UKIP??) 69
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Vortex 03:17 PM 08-08-2008

Originally Posted by Independent UKIP:
Writing personally, as always:

http://www.maldon.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyre.../Nominated.pdf

This is dated 15th July and shows Mr Harris without any party description. Perhaps you could tell us why, several weeks later, you stated that he was a UKIP candidate? Thanks. And yes I do know that a Geoffrey Harris was a UKIP candidate in the area in 2001.

With pleasure. I took the details from the Votewise site which lists all forthcoming local authority by elections, the candidates and their programmes if they submit them. This clearly states that Geoffrey Harris was a UKIP candidate. Yesterday, on one of the BNP Forums it was stated that Harris was not endorsed by any party, so I then looked at the Maldon Council nominees and this information was confirmed. There's nothing sinister at play here, I took Votewise at face value and asked UKIP people for clarification.
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blueblood1920 06:32 PM 08-08-2008

Originally Posted by Vortex:
With pleasure. I took the details from the Votewise site which lists all forthcoming local authority by elections, the candidates and their programmes if they submit them. This clearly states that Geoffrey Harris was a UKIP candidate. Yesterday, on one of the BNP Forums it was stated that Harris was not endorsed by any party, so I then looked at the Maldon Council nominees and this information was confirmed. There's nothing sinister at play here, I took Votewise at face value and asked UKIP people for clarification.

apparently it was a mistake on his behalf since he was putting out UKIP material.
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Independent UKIP 09:27 PM 08-08-2008

Originally Posted by Vortex:
With pleasure. I took the details from the Votewise site which lists all forthcoming local authority by elections, the candidates and their programmes if they submit them. This clearly states that Geoffrey Harris was a UKIP candidate. Yesterday, on one of the BNP Forums it was stated that Harris was not endorsed by any party, so I then looked at the Maldon Council nominees and this information was confirmed. There's nothing sinister at play here, I took Votewise at face value and asked UKIP people for clarification.

Thanks for your reply. I have looked at the Votewise website. It stills say Mr Howard was a UKIP candidate which is untrue and it says Mr Parsons stood on 7th August which is also untrue. As the page for both those people demonstrate that the site has not been in contact with them I hardly think they are responsible for this situation. The site owners/moderators and the volunteer/s who provided the inaccurate information and did not correct it should perhaps explain themselves. I certainly won't be relying on that site for accurate information in the future.
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Independent UKIP 09:37 PM 08-08-2008

Originally Posted by blueblood1920:
apparently it was a mistake on his behalf since he was putting out UKIP material.

I don't know what material he was putting out or how it makes any difference to whether he was a UKIP candidate - as he wasn't one. On a side issue, there are many persons elected to Parish Councils with no party description who stood at the same time for UKIP at District Council level. Nobody seriously claims they are therefore UKIP Councillors.

Could you perhaps be kind enough to post a scan of his election material as you apparently know all about it. Thanks.
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StGeorge 01:03 PM 12-08-2008
Paul Rew was the unofficial labour party candidate.
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gumshoe 08:59 PM 12-08-2008
I recall in the old days before Nigel Farage became leader of UKIP he used to brag that UKIP was a grassroots party. It never was of course, but whatever growth there was in the roots started wilting after the E.U Elections in 2004.

If the grass roots were really important, UKIP's local election results in May 2008 should have triggered some positive reaction from the man with the watering-can but all that we are witnessing is an unseemly amount of infighting over the candidates' placings for the E.U. Election in 2009.

At the recent by-election the candidate for Maldon North Ward did not even have the strength to mark his nomination paper with the UKIP name.

Is UKIP capable of being revived or have the roots finally perished?
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