a swansong 4 europe 10:15 PM 06-07-2008
In absence of reality, pretense is all that is left.
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ANGLO-STAFFS 12:29 AM 07-07-2008
Originally Posted by chartwell:
Doesn't anyone think that the EDP's should let Andrew Constantine's party take over the fight in elections? At the very least he should be given a chance.
After the London Mayoral disaster, the appalling Henley result and now they are taking part again in yet another man's publicity stunt (David Davis) they are in danger of dragging England into the grave with them.
At least take a break, re-group and come back stronger, but to keep fighting on reminds me of Monty Python and the Holy Grail and the Knight who keeps wanting to fight despite having no arms and no legs!
I do not see that there is any reason for the EDP to "let" any other party have a chance. Both EDP and FEP are so small and with very little coverage in the country that there is little need for them to have to fight each other unless it is a deliberate policy by one or both leaderships.
Imho, a policy of the insane.
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cassie 12:41 AM 07-07-2008
Originally Posted by david H:
Don't worry about that. Join the EDP and pretend they are all English.
This is an extremely silly remark from someone who has consistently opposed the EDP, so why should we expect anything better?
Campaigning to establish a separate parliament for England and its people attracts enough opposition without the need to hand more propaganda weapons to its opponents. There are many non-English who realise that a separate parliament in England itself will be a means of creating and strengthening a proper sense of English identity. Any fool can see that, when candidates come to be selected for such a parliament, their background will be a much more significant factor than it is for the British Parliament! Yes, anyone can be British! One doesn't even need to be born here or related by blood to anyone who has. Not only can one have an entirely different ethnicity, one may also have another nationality . . . the Race [Ethnicity & Nationality] Relations Act of 1976 has seen to that!
Unthinking fools put ethnicity above the need for the parliament in England, thereby undermining efforts to secure the institution which can promote the kind of society wanted by the English! With 'friends' like that, who needs non-English enemies?
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cassie 12:45 AM 07-07-2008
Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS:
I do not see that there is any reason for the EDP to "let" any other party have a chance. Both EDP and FEP are so small and with very little coverage in the country that there is little need for them to have to fight each other unless it is a deliberate policy by one or both leaderships.
Imho, a policy of the insane.
A policy of the insane, or a tactic by opponents of a separate parliament for England who wish to undermine the efforts to secure one?
I wish both the EDP and FEP well, and question the motives of anyone who attacks either or both, and that includes members of either party.
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Originally Posted by cassie:
Having another pop at the EDP are we? The EDP must figure very large in your thoughts!
Perhaps you'd kindly explain what is actually stopping the FEP from taking over the fight [whatever that bit of confused thinking is supposed to mean]? The answer is NOTHING!
This is just another pretext to post, negative, destructive comments about an English nationalist party in order to foment unnecessary division. Next you'll be having us believe that YOU are an English nationalist!
Clearly, Care in the Community isn't working as it should.
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Are the EDs looking forward to another thrashing at the hands of the Loonies on Thursday?
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a swansong 4 europe 08:34 PM 07-07-2008
Cassie: "I wish both the EDP and FEP well, and question the motives of anyone who attacks either or both, and that includes members of either party."
So, one cannot criticise a party because one is not a member, or even if you ARE a member? Why not, isn't that some sort of dictatorial attitude? Many on this forum attack or condemn this or that party, but isn't that what this forum is all about - discussion and debate and invariably, disagreement?
Stop putting your self up as some sort of defender of England and English people; it is not your sole right nor do you have absolute authority on the matter.
If the English are getting shafted by others, unfortunately, it is largely down to English people for being naive, lazy and selfish and history rarely rewards the socially corrupt.
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cassie 10:01 PM 07-07-2008
Originally Posted by a swansong 4 europe:
Cassie: "I wish both the EDP and FEP well, and question the motives of anyone who attacks either or both, and that includes members of either party."
So, one cannot criticise a party because one is not a member, or even if you ARE a member? Why not, isn't that some sort of dictatorial attitude? Many on this forum attack or condemn this or that party, but isn't that what this forum is all about - discussion and debate and invariably, disagreement?
Stop putting your self up as some sort of defender of England and English people; it is not your sole right nor do you have absolute authority on the matter.
If the English are getting shafted by others, unfortunately, it is largely down to English people for being naive, lazy and selfish and history rarely rewards the socially corrupt.
You are entitled to your opinions, however unperceptive and dumb they may be. However, I'll chose my role, NOT you! Methinks it is YOU who is being dictatorial!
It would seem from your description of the English, that you are not one yourself. Hardly surprising then, that you should be so unjustifiably insulting. Still, while you're insulting us, you're not insulting others who deserve it more!
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Proper little ray of sunshine, aren't you? There, that's your therapy over for today.
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chartwell 04:59 AM 08-07-2008
Dear Cassie,
Most of us want to see a successful English Party. I think that is a more nationalist view than yours!
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cassie 08:41 AM 08-07-2008
Originally Posted by chartwell:
Dear Cassie,
Most of us want to see a successful English Party. I think that is a more nationalist view than yours!
Dear chartwell, This is a particularly silly post, and I think you are a troll!
What exactly is a 'successful English party'? You haven't said what you mean by that and how can we read a tiny mind like yours?
As for your assertion: "I think that is a more nationalistic view than yours!" - how can 'most of us [undefined] wanting a successful [undefined] English party' [undefined] be a 'more nationalist view' than my [unspecified] opinions? This witless effusion requires us to know what random thoughts pass through your feeble mind!
Not content with initiating yet another divisive thread criticising the EDP by promoting the FEP, you do so not on the FEP's section but here, in the EDP's section. People are best assessed by their actions, and your action here exposes your real agenda, which is to foment division amongst English nationalists.
I believe that you are yet another BNP supporter, but lack the honesty and candour to say so, which is the kind of conduct I expect from BNP people. It is not surprising that there are some here who would ban your ilk and your destructive posts. You abuse free speech.
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david H 01:12 PM 08-07-2008
That's it, cassie - plenty of Americanisms.
"You are entitled to your opinions, however unperceptive and dumb they may be."
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