Originally Posted by chartwell:
I think Key Stage 2, that given the appalling behaviour of the Eng Dems, their arrests, an addiction to failure that makes Gordon Brown look like Obama - Andrew Constantine and co should run a million miles from the Eng Dems because they would be tainted by their reputation.

Andrew Constantine & his colleagues in the FEP, have no restrictions to their activity, as they are a totally different party to the English Democrats.

Indeed when Andrew Constantine was the Chairman of the English Democrats in London he had virtually no restrictions in his activity imposed by the English Democrats centrally.

The English Democrats is a "Bottom Up" party, the Local party has very little restiction to activity.

Chartwell - you have a very strange grasp of the facts.
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English people behaving like children,while your country goes to the dogs.Close all these little partys down,and join the BNP,which is very much pro england anyway.
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Originally Posted by alfred the great:
English people behaving like children,while your country goes to the dogs.Close all these little partys down,and join the BNP,which is very much pro england anyway.

Do you seriously think people will take your advice when you can't even spell??? The word in this context should be parties.

The BNP is pro-Britain, just like all other unionist parties like Labour and the Tories. Britain is more important to the BNP than England is, that's why parties like Free England and the EDP exist, to try and do something in the best interests of England, not Britain.
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The BNP is constantly talking about English nationalism and has had many fine articles on the subject. Even John Lovejoy writes for them. If they did change to a wholly English nationalist party as thy probably will, you English Nationalist lot are finished.
You are not popular on this board either. The moderators on here are tolerant and fair of all things apart from you lot. Then they become very biased and who can blame them?
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Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart:
Do you seriously think people will take your advice when you can't even spell??? The word in this context should be parties.

The BNP is pro-Britain, just like all other unionist parties like Labour and the Tories. Britain is more important to the BNP than England is, that's why parties like Free England and the EDP exist, to try and do something in the best interests of England, not Britain.

Richard is totally right on this one.

The BNP is the "British National Party" - for Gods sake, even someone of limited intelligence should realise that a political party looking after the interests of England has "English" or "England" in it's title.
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Originally Posted by Ken:
The BNP is constantly talking about English nationalism and has had many fine articles on the subject. Even John Lovejoy writes for them. If they did change to a wholly English nationalist party as thy probably will, you English Nationalist lot are finished.
You are not popular on this board either. The moderators on here are tolerant and fair of all things apart from you lot. Then they become very biased and who can blame them?

Surely if the BNP "reinvent" themselves as a proper English Nationalist Party, with a necessary change in their name, then it is the BNP that is finished, rather then those brave enough to pave the way, similarly if the Conservative & Unionist party change their policy to adopt an English Parliament then all the good work of the CEP & English Democrats will have created the pressure for this to occur.
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But you are not brave nor are you paving the way. You are cowards and traitors who say everyone on the land of England is English.
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Originally Posted by KeyStage2:
if the Conservative & Unionist party change their policy to adopt an English Parliament then all the good work of the CEP & English Democrats will have created the pressure for this to occur.

Agreed. Job done.

Originally Posted by KeyStage2:
Surely if the BNP "reinvent" themselves as a proper English Nationalist Party, with a necessary change in their name, then it is the BNP that is finished,

In a literal sense maybe, but no more so than the "Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party". I'm expecting the BNP to become more and more English nationalist, which is why my wise counsel to the EDP is to differentiate yourself from them (and the EFP) on civic nationalist terms. Obviously the extent to which you think my advice is wise will depend on the turn of events, but nevertheless you may as well prepare now for all eventualities.
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Originally Posted by Ken:
You are cowards and traitors

Traitors to whom?
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Originally Posted by Toque:
Agreed. Job done.



In a literal sense maybe, but no more so than the "Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party". I'm expecting the BNP to become more and more English nationalist, which is why my wise counsel to the EDP is to differentiate yourself from them (and the EFP) on civic nationalist terms. Obviously the extent to which you think my advice is wise will depend on the turn of events, but nevertheless you may as well prepare now for all eventualities.

I think your advice has always been well intentioned, however, you assume the following:-

1 Unlimited Finances & time for English Demcorats political activity

2 Unlimited number of political activists for the English movement, for a new party (like the English Democrats) to recruit.

3 A Level playing field from the BBC for "new political parties" compared to establishment parties.

The reality of politics "on the ground" is something different, and given that there are restrictions as outlined above, then on occassions, alternative stratagies are explored, sometimes, these stratagies work and sometimes they don't, with an injection of say £5 Million into the English Democrats, then the party is now in a position where a credible campaign could be mustered against the established parties.
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