Originally Posted by Besoeker:
Actual figures would be helpful.

If you follow the links there are some figures and it is written better then I can
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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee:
Please don't be rude.

Show me exactly were I have been rude I was merely pointing out that you are appearing to contradict yourself

I notive that you have made no public comment about another posters rudeness is that because you share the same views

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Explain it in your own words and perhaps I'd take you more seriously. I'm no scientist but when the pro-side have a virtual consensus and the big institutions behind them and you have polemic and insult and what look like conspiracy theories then I'm hardly going to believe your side.

Have you explained your position in your own words don't think so and as for insult I suggest you look at the posts and see who is continuely rude but as I said above you have the same views

FWIW My view I have seen credible evidence that the Hockey stick results are caused by the program (and before you ask I have worked as an analyst/programmer) and the effects can be caused by any data a clear example of GIGO clearly the developers wanted a specific result and wrote the application that way

I have seen credible eveidence that many temperature data sets are inaccurate because of the siting of instruments
The most accurate shows that over the past 10 years the average temperature has dropped slightly

I know what the greenhouse effect is and what causes it
I believe that it is credible that mankind is having an extremely small effect but certainly not enough to warrent the action being taken and I have made tha position clear before

I'm not the one looking for a big cheque by currying favour with the government as my post about Dr David Evans clearly showed

Now I am going to be rude I find your posts and attitude that of an immature person who really hasn't got a clue about the argument
So like Clippo you go on my I really don't give a f*ck list and will no longer be answered
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Originally Posted by g hall:
If you follow the links there are some figures and it is written better then I can

I did check the links you cited in post #91.
As far as I can see, they are about a spat between McIntyre and Nature over whether McIntyre's work should or ought tio be published.

Again, as far as I can tell, the McIntyre complaint is much about dubious use of time scales by Mann et all. But no alternative offered.
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Originally Posted by Besoeker:
I did check the links you cited in post #91.
As far as I can see, they are about a spat between McIntyre and Nature over whether McIntyre's work should or ought tio be published.

Again, as far as I can tell, the McIntyre complaint is much about dubious use of time scales by Mann et all. But no alternative offered.

OK then Try Chris Booker's peice in the Sunday Tel

Nasa is out of line on global warming - Telegraph

or follow these to The Register

Are the ice caps melting? | The Register

Painting by numbers: NASA's peculiar thermometer | The Register

Is the earth getting warmer, or cooler? | The Register
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