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gc 01:32 PM 05-08-2008
Massive ice block crumbling off Canadian coast

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There appears to be alarming new evidence of global warming off Canada's northern coast. A massive chunk of the Arctic ice shelf has broken free and scientists say further splitting could occur during the region's summer melt. One block, measuring nearly 20 square kilometres is thought to be the biggest piece of ice shed in three years. The thing worrying experts is that the current warming being experienced in the Artic means the ice-shelves are not regenerating, which may lead to the disappearance of the ice shelf off Canada's north coast.
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Clippo 04:18 PM 05-08-2008
gc,
I can’t see a link in your post but here is another one which alludes mainly to other excessive arctic warming – (& in the body it mentions ‘your’ loss of ice):-.
Record heat forces closure of Canada Arctic park - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

The sea ice melt this year is fractionally less than last year (so naturally deniers will say the Earth is cooling) but what ice is there is thought to be thinning dramatically.
This link is updated daily I believe:-
Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis

Finally, the piece in desmogblog about these stories:-
Arctic tourists evacuated amid melting and unprecedented warming | DeSmogBlog
Is worth reading especially :-

Originally Posted by :
As an explorer I've experienced firsthand the freakish effects of a warming planet in the South Pole and this type of news hits home for me. Maybe the answer is that people need to feel the effects of climate change on their doorstep before they will understand the seriousness of the situation we're facing.
Unfortunately, if we wait for everyone to be hit right between the eyes, I'm afraid it'll probably be too late.


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Kevin Adamson 04:48 PM 05-08-2008
Whoever is right about the GW argument one thing Im sure of is we in the UK cant make any differance to what is or is not happening. With the US not playing ball the Asian economies booming with industrialization the minnimal efforts we are making with recycling ,bio fuels ect dosnt make a jot of differance to the bigger picture.
The taxes raised in this country through the pretence of saving the World is nothing short of theft
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g hall 05:46 PM 05-08-2008
Here's something to think about

Is the earth getting warmer, or cooler? | The Register

I particularly like this

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Bear in mind that warming and cooling concerns are nothing new, as this alarming bulletin reminds us -

The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consul Ifft, at Bergen, Norway. Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers, he declared, all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone. Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met with as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared. Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts, which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.
A RealClimate blogger? No, that was the US Weather Bureau in 1922.
We saw a global cooling scare in 1924, a global warming scare in 1933, another global cooling in the early 1970s, and another warming scare today. The changes the USHCN promised Watts won't help resolve anything for another decade or so, but perhaps future generations will be able to reduce the alarming increase in the number of climate alarms.®


I didn't know that Al Gore was that old
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g hall 05:48 PM 05-08-2008
An interesting and well researched piece for those who think Al Gore is a snake oil salesman

Are the ice caps melting? | The Register

Again Hansen and NASA are out of step with other findings I wonder why this is ?
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JamieM 08:18 PM 05-08-2008

Originally Posted by gc:
Massive ice block crumbling off Canadian coast

SECTION: news

LENGTH: 91 words


There appears to be alarming new evidence of global warming off Canada's northern coast. A massive chunk of the Arctic ice shelf has broken free and scientists say further splitting could occur during the region's summer melt. One block, measuring nearly 20 square kilometres is thought to be the biggest piece of ice shed in three years. The thing worrying experts is that the current warming being experienced in the Artic means the ice-shelves are not regenerating, which may lead to the disappearance of the ice shelf off Canada's north coast.

No it's not!!!
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GreenerWorld 09:46 PM 05-08-2008
The Canadians (some of whom live in the Arctic circle) seem pretty convinced and should know better than a lot of the "experts" here.

Arctic ice depleted by half in 6 years of 'drastic thinning:' researcher

A former Kiwi flatmate of mine lives in Finland now. He can't believe how much things have changed in the last five years, especially in winter.
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g hall 10:23 PM 05-08-2008

Originally Posted by GreenerWorld:
The Canadians (some of whom live in the Arctic circle) seem pretty convinced and should know better than a lot of the "experts" here.

opinion NOT fact and does that include ALL of the dwellers within the Arctic circle?

Originally Posted by :
Arctic ice depleted by half in 6 years of 'drastic thinning:' researcher

A former Kiwi flatmate of mine lives in Finland now. He can't believe how much things have changed in the last five years, especially in winter.

Well now that the Finns are in the EU its an exciting life
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gc 02:03 PM 06-08-2008

Originally Posted by JamieM:
No it's not!!!

These are not serious sources, Jamie.
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g hall 08:45 PM 06-08-2008

Originally Posted by gc:
These are not serious sources, Jamie.

By serious do you mean that Al Gore has to like them if not please explain why they are not serious

Certainly look serious enough for me
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