youcanhandlethetruth 01:46 AM 18-08-2008
Clippo 09:15 AM 18-08-2008
I have long been expecting a contrarian to latch onto the Arctic sea ice situation. I thought it might have been the loon Christopher Booker but mysterious Steven Goddard (the invisible man) continues to try to deceive. Still peddling the false assumption that, year on year that if the ice melt isn’t greater than the previous year, then AGW doesn’t hold up.
He craftily reproduces one of NSIDC’s graphs (which he calls ‘alarming’ – but nobody else does – see the attempt to start a false argument or whatever it is in rhetoric terms) - but conveniently leaves out their detailed discussions of the daily changing situation. For the real McCoy, go to :-
Arctic Sea Ice News & Analysis
He also raises the question about a large discrepancy between ‘other’ graphs.
If he had bothered to follow some links in the NSIDC graph, he would have seen this:-
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/disclaimer1.html
i.e. all the ‘other’ graphs are derived from the same NASA data so it’s all down to pixel interpretation
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Seasider 09:25 AM 18-08-2008
Originally Posted by youcanhandlethetruth:
Arctic ice refuses to melt as ordered | The Register
How dare those ice-caps refuse to co-operate with the global warming agenda ?
Maybe there are nasty terrorists up there having a hand in it ?
Cheers for that link
:-)
'Bad, naughty ice! Stand in the corner at once, until you have learnt your manners and defer to your superiors!'
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SilverFalcon 10:18 AM 18-08-2008
Originally Posted by Seasider:
Cheers for that link :-)
'Bad, naughty ice! Stand in the corner at once, until you have learnt your manners and defer to your superiors!'
What a beautiful avatar pic, Seasider! Sorry to butt in on Arctic Ice but your sunset over the sea is glorious. Makes me think of Cape Town where you get a "golden highway" to the sun every summer evening over a sea glittering as though with burnished diamonds.
Does anyone have the feeling I have that after a global heat wave of perhaps short duration in climatological terms there will be the mother of all ice ages again?
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Seasider 12:47 PM 18-08-2008
Originally Posted by SilverFalcon:
What a beautiful avatar pic, Seasider! Sorry to butt in on Arctic Ice but your sunset over the sea is glorious. Makes me think of Cape Town where you get a "golden highway" to the sun every summer evening over a sea glittering as though with burnished diamonds.
Does anyone have the feeling I have that after a global heat wave of perhaps short duration in climatological terms there will be the mother of all ice ages again?
Thank you SilverFalcon.
:-)
I would love to see the sunsets over Cape Town and I believe the Pacific has some stunning sunsets too.
I feel as you do about the 'ice age a comin'!
We must be due one and any 'global warming' will be totally irrelevant in the grand scheme.
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SilverFalcon 01:04 PM 18-08-2008
Originally Posted by Seasider:
Thank you SilverFalcon.:-)
I would love to see the sunsets over Cape Town and I believe the Pacific has some stunning sunsets too.
I feel as you do about the 'ice age a comin'!
We must be due one and any 'global warming' will be totally irrelevant in the grand scheme.
The good thing about melts is that they reveal a lot of things for archaeologists to study. A great deal of information about our past is actually trapped under and inside ice.
:-)
(The Indian Ocean is beautiful too. Great big greeny blue thing with golden edges and little grains like pepper left on your skin. Cape Town is Atlantic and so has diamonds in her oceanic eyes. It's the salt in very cold water, I think, that creates this sparkle. The sea around Cape Town is freezing cold and the sand snow white. The scientists on here will be able to explain the phenomena. I'm just a poet, lol.)
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Seasider 01:07 PM 18-08-2008
Originally Posted by SilverFalcon:
The good thing about melts is that they reveal a lot of things for archaeologists to study. A great deal of information about our past is actually trapped under and inside ice. :-)
(The Indian Ocean is beautiful too. Great big greeny blue thing with golden edges and little grains like pepper left on your skin. Cape Town is Atlantic and so has diamonds in her oceanic eyes. It's the salt in very cold water, I think, that creates this sparkle. The sea around Cape Town is freezing cold and the sand snow white. The scientists on here will be able to explain the phenomena. I'm just a poet, lol.)
I like the poetic description more than anything, but if there are any marine biologists or scientists on this forum, I would like that analysis as well.
:-)
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SilverFalcon 01:30 PM 18-08-2008
You get quite a few scientists today who are romantics in that they are starting to see the stuff they are dealing with the way Carl Sagan used to see his cosmic "starstuff".The coldness is receding, the fatalism is evolving and a new light is dawning in the mind of science. It's part of the new age we are moving into, the age beyond the Nordic Ragnarok - the age of green warriors and the science of renewal. It will take time to manifest, but it will come, has already arrived and will grow.
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TannyD 02:37 PM 18-08-2008
Originally Posted by Seasider:
Cheers for that link :-)
'Bad, naughty ice! Stand in the corner at once, until you have learnt your manners and defer to your superiors!'
Melt!!!
Melt!!
Melt!!
MELT!!!
Damn it, I am telling you to melt!!!
Hmmm...Maybe this will help you to do as you are told.
Image
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Seasider 02:52 PM 18-08-2008
Originally Posted by TannyD:
Melt!!!
Melt!!
Melt!!
MELT!!!
Damn it, I am telling you to melt!!!
Hmmm...Maybe this will help you to do as you are told.
Image
Brilliant
:-)
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