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    William Schlesinger on IPCC: “something on the order of 20 percent have had some dealing with climate.” Watts Up With That?

    'During the question and answer session of last weeks' William Schlesinger/John Christy Global Warming debate, Schlesinger (alarmist) was asked how many members of United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) were actual climate scientists. It is well known that many, if not most, of its members are not scientists at all. Its president, for example, is an economist.'
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    There are three parts to the IPCC report.

    Working Group I Report "The Physical Science Basis"
    Working Group II Report "Impacts, Adaptation and Vulnerability
    Working Group III Report "Mitigation of Climate Change"

    Only the first contains a large number of climate scientists as authors. In fact you can get a good idea what experts are involved in the IPCC by looking at the chapter names:

    WG1:
    Chapter 1: Historical Overview of Climate Change Science
    Chapter 2: Changes in Atmospheric Constituents and in Radiative Forcing
    Chapter 3: Observations: Surface and Atmospheric Climate Change
    Chapter 4: Observations: Changes in Snow, Ice and Frozen Ground
    Chapter 5: Observations: Oceanic Climate Change and Sea Level
    Chapter 6: Palaeoclimate
    Chapter 7: Couplings Between Changes in the Climate System and Biogeochemistry
    Chapter 8: Climate Models and their Evaluation
    Chapter 9: Understanding and Attributing Climate Change
    Chapter 10: Global Climate Projections
    Chapter 11: Regional Climate Projections



    WG2:
    Chapter 1: Assessment of Observed Changes and Responses in Natural and Managed Systems
    Chapter 2: New Assesment Methods and the Characterisation of Future Conditions
    Chapter 3: Fresh Water Resources and their Management
    Chapter 4: Ecosystems, their Properties, Goods and Services
    Chapter 5: Food, Fibre, and Forest Products
    Chapter 6: Coastal Systems and Low-Lying Areas
    Chapter 7: Industry, Settlement and Society
    Chapter 8: Human Health
    Chapter 9: Africa
    Chapter 10: Asia
    Chapter 11: Australia and New Zealand
    Chapter 12: Europe
    Chapter 13: Latin America
    Chapter 14: North America
    Chapter 15: Polar Regions (Arctic and Antarctic)
    Chapter 16: Small Islands
    Chapter 17: Assessment of Adaptation Practices, Options, Constraints and Capacity
    Chapter 18: Inter-Relationships Between Adaptation and Mitigation
    Chapter 19: Assessing Key Vulnerabilities and the Risk from Climate Change
    Chapter 20: Perspectives on Climate Change and Sustainability

    WG3:
    Chapter 1: Introduction
    Chapter 2: Framing Issues
    Chapter 3: Issues related to mitigation in the long-term context
    Chapter 4: Energy Supply
    Chapter 5: Transport and its infrastructure
    Chapter 6: Residential and commercial buildings
    Chapter 7: Industry
    Chapter 8: Agriculture
    Chapter 9: Forestry
    Chapter 10: Waste management
    Chapter 11: Mitigation from a cross-sectoral perspective
    Chapter 12: Sustainable Development and mitigation
    Chapter 13: Policies, instruments, and co-operative arrangements

    A contributor to "Waste management" for example is unlikely to be a climate scientist.

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    The reason it that it is hard to find a proper scientist that believes in it. The other kind is a pretend scientist; usually one that is weak on science and finds the only way they can survive is by becoming a political 'scientist'. By telling the party what it wants to believe they can earn a living.
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    Quite a lot of proper scientists on the AR4 WG1 Author list

    Here is a list someone has made of over 2000 climate scientists:
    Most cited authors on climate change
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Quite a lot of proper scientists on the AR4 WG1 Author list

    Here is a list someone has made of over 2000 climate scientists:
    Most cited authors on climate change

    I don't actually measure a scientist by the number of citations. That is a very crooked measuring stick. I suppose, apart from actually giving them a grilling I would respect anyone who has invented/discovered anything really clever. I mean something that has worked, not a theory of questionable merit. Even so, knowing who is a proper scientist is fraught with difficulty. You really need to be a greater expert than the one you are measuring to know for certain. That's why the industry has its fair share of charlatans, and when bribes are on offer that number goes through the roof.
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