Should Britain remain within the EU?

I joined UKIP because the party was formed to assist getting Britain out of the EU! If I'd wanted to stay in, I'd have continued voting Tory! In my opinion anybody who understands what the EU is all about and yet still wishes for Britain to stay in , is as big a traitor as 'Heath'!

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UKIP are the party Labour should have been.

Supporting individual freedoms, freedom of speech, hostility towards the EU, taking the poorest people earning less than 10k out of tax... punishments to fit the crime.

The Tories were never vehemently anti-EU. As you rightly mentioned kernow it was Heath who was a traitor to the country. Thatcher though effectively dividing the country had a lot of potential for maintaining Britain's interests with regards to the EU, but bottled it and Major signing Maastricht got us to where we are today.

I don't for one second feel reassured that Cameron will be any different to any of the former Conservative PMs. It would be BRILLIANT if I was wrong but let's face it the Tories record of signing our freedoms away to the EU is much worse than Labour.

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My answer to the question is NO - but i don't see how the hell we can get out :-):-)
We've been slowly,slowly sucked into the EU for the last 35 years.
The LIb/Lab/Cons are not going to get us out, they are pro EU & took us in, & sadly i don't believe for a second, that UKIP are up to the job of doing anything about it.:-)

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I voted Yes - it should stay in the EU at least for the next 10 years. Otherwise the speed of integration would increase for the remaining countries. Eurosceptics should be helping each other, and not leaving each other in trouble :-). I think it is better to stop the behemoth from inside than outside.

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Originally Posted by yaro:
Otherwise the speed of integration would increase for the remaining countries. .

Yes maybe, but without Britain and her money the EU would be in trouble as it would have to find a new source to keep it self going.

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Originally Posted by Earthling:
UKIP are the party Labour should have been.

Supporting individual freedoms, freedom of speech, hostility towards the EU, taking the poorest people earning less than 10k out of tax... punishments to fit the crime.

Ah yes, UKIP - the Party that voted for 42 days detention...

Originally Posted by Earthling:
The Tories were never vehemently anti-EU. As you rightly mentioned kernow it was Heath who was a traitor to the country. Thatcher though effectively dividing the country had a lot of potential for maintaining Britain's interests with regards to the EU, but bottled it and Major signing Maastricht got us to where we are today.

Bottled it? Sorry, who won that UK rebate?

Originally Posted by Earthling:
I don't for one second feel reassured that Cameron will be any different to any of the former Conservative PMs. It would be BRILLIANT if I was wrong but let's face it the Tories record of signing our freedoms away to the EU is much worse than Labour.

Merely because the Tories have been in power longer. Labour signed Lisbon did they not? Blair also signed away our opt-out on the 'Social Protocol' which Major had secured in 1991.

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UKIP did not vote for 42-days. The official view is we are against it. Bob Spink seemed to disagree and chose not to follow the party but it is not an endorsement of official UKIP policy

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Originally Posted by yaro:
I voted Yes - it should stay in the EU at least for the next 10 years. Otherwise the speed of integration would increase for the remaining countries. Eurosceptics should be helping each other, and not leaving each other in trouble :-). I think it is better to stop the behemoth from inside than outside.

Yaro, you're a man after my own heart! The one thing I've got against UKIP is that I think it is very selfish to want out alone and leave others to their own devices. ALL those opposed to the control-freakery of the EU should be working together.

I voted NO in the 1975 referendum, but that was then and now is now. In my opinion, we should be working towards a Commonwealth of Europe, which would consist of independent nation states agreeing co-operation where necessary. It would definitely not be some kind of federal euro-money pot organisation hell-bent on poking noses into every law and life in the present Union.

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Originally Posted by steve fowler:
Yes maybe, but without Britain and her money the EU would be in trouble as it would have to find a new source to keep it self going.

Then why hasn't the EU done something about Nigel Farage? He is the biggest threat to Britain continued membership of the EU (aka; Britain only hope). Why isn't he in jail or been dumped on a desert island...or worse....is the EU truely democracitc? Are they willing to let him try and free the BRitish people if Britain is that vital to the EU's stability?

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