Originally Posted by Danny:
I am not shifing ground at all martin you are getting to excited with your self.I have posted an example of a border land issue you totally brush it off because you have blinkered eyes only for Independence you sound like Ian paisley in northern ireland when he says no surrender to the IRA Martin thompson says No surrender to English Independence Now come back and lets debate you are losing the debate thats why you post in the manner you do

You stopped debating some time ago, if you look at the context of your posts. What you certainly are incapable of doing is answering a direct question.
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Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart:
Come on then Danny, please explain how you have blown our case for independence out of the water. Your provide no facts, documents, evidence or anything else. Simply because you say you have blown our case away it doesn't mean it is so!

Richard If you say I as a member of the public can blow your case what on earth are you going to do when the full force of the media.and politicians put you under the spotlight and scrutiny etc.
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Originally Posted by Ea of Dune:
I think Northern Ireland is going to be an odd case in the future at any rate.
Does anybody know if there are plans for EU regions in Ireland for example?
I would have thought the EU would want to split Ireland down based upon the old geographical boundies such as Ulster, Munster etc. and NI is only a section of Ulster?

Ea of dune

I doubt it. It's not some menacing plot to destroy Countries. They are done purely on population, and since the ROI only has about 4 million inhabitants, it's probably OK for it to be one 'region'.
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Originally Posted by :
I doubt it. It's not some menacing plot to destroy Countries. They are done purely on population, and since the ROI only has about 4 million inhabitants, it's probably OK for it to be one 'region'.

Whilst the destroying countries thing in my opinion is debatable, I would have thought from a governance point of view the chopping up of countries into smaller chunks based upon Geography had some benefits from an EU perspective.

Ea of dune
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Originally Posted by Northumbrian:
You stopped debating some time ago, if you look at the context of your posts. What you certainly are incapable of doing is answering a direct question.

What a load of complete waffle you asked a direct question on land borders you get an answer and a case of a present land border.you have failed to come back only with waffle.now go way and come back ask aquestion and you will get an answer you havnt a clue what you are talking about martin.you are out of your depth
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Originally Posted by Danny:
Richard If you say I as a member of the public can blow your case what on earth are you going to do when the full force of the media.and politicians put you under the spotlight and scrutiny etc.

I would make them look as ridiculous as I made you.
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Originally Posted by Danny:
Richard If you say I as a member of the public can blow your case what on earth are you going to do when the full force of the media.and politicians put you under the spotlight and scrutiny etc.

Where do I say you have blown our case out of the water? It was you who made the claim and I asked you to provide the evidence. In addition to your lack of grammatical skills, you obviously have a problem reading and understanding.
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Originally Posted by Danny:
What a load of complete waffle you asked a direct question on land borders you get an answer and a case of a present land border.you have failed to come back only with waffle.now go way and come back ask aquestion and you will get an answer you havnt a clue what you are talking about martin.you are out of your depth

I asked you if you support a unified Ireland? You haven't answered, because it would expose you as a hypocrite. Just like these UKIP types who would be happy to put up with a land border in Ireland between an EU state and a non-EU one, yet think England outside the EU and Scotland in it would be problematic.
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Ireland didn't have open borders with the rest of Europe (and soon to be Turkey) to worry about.

I don't think many people could give a toss if the Scottish or Welsh pile into to England when they both collapse (well apart from the EDP of course). However, if millions of whatever EU member countries rejects pile in, via the convienience of two huge open doors, that might concern some.
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It is not dawn so could some of the posters on this thread please put the handbags away.

An independent England WILL have land borders. It is a fact. Why should it be a problem?

I would guess that about 95% of the countries on the planet have one or more land borders, most seem to cope ok.

If anyone argues that England can't have independence because the English can't cope with borders, well, they are a crettin of the first order.

I thought that when FEP got this section of the forum we would find out more of the party's aims.
Instead we find the three top people of the FEP chasing Danny around the maze in which he has got himself lost.
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