Originally Posted by Richard the Lionheart:
I'm not opposed to Cornish separateness, quite the opposite. I support the rights of any nation to have self-government. What I object to is having to pay for it. If the people of Cornwall want to go it alone, fine, but it must be understood that they must pay their own way in the world, no Barnett type handouts, and they should pay for any services given to them by their neighbours, in addition to servicing the national debt pro-rata. That's fair isn't it?

The way I see it, is in a newly created English state, our traditional counties would be given extra powers to run their own affairs, and if Cornwall wanted to call its council a stannary, then that's not a problem. However, no single council should have more powers than another.

You won't get any sense out of BD Richard! You make a valid point, but he avoids even acknowledging it and shifts onto other ground even resorting to abuse!

As I said on 24 May in Post#2, "Even so, I vehemently oppose the PUBLIC FUNDING which has been inflicted on England and the English in respect of a number of minority and semi-moribund languages which have managed to hang on in the British Isles without a penny-piece of public money being expended on Old Englisc!"

Too many individuals pleading non-English causes think they can come onto an English section and pontificate with impunity! They whine when they find they can't!


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Where was the abuse? I like Richard, he seems like a decent guy.

You on the other hand are not. Have you ever considered shutting up or making a decent and intelligent post for once?
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I live in the far south west and am a frequent visitor to Cornwall. I agree with RTL that any form of autonomy must be funded directly from Cornwall. You only have to look at the present devolution settlements between the home nations to see waht a shambles the whole thing is.
I feel Cornish interests would be furthered within an independent England. However if there was a significant percentage of people in opinion polls that favoured greater autonomy in Cornwall, then I would not object to a referendum being held for the people of Cornwall to decide their future.
The options could be
1; To remain as a county within an independent England.
2; Fiscal devolution, with Cornwall funding its own Assembly and contributing to England financially for all external matters.
3; Independence.
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I think that if the Cornish people are all for this idea that they should be fully financed from Westminster,some of it could be repaid down the line with the rest of it being in the form of grants.Maybe its the time to let people do their thing instead of being domineered by traditionalist authoritarian types who are aftraid of change and jealous of those who arent afraid of it.
Just my loose thoughts on the subject,nothing more.
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Originally Posted by Hartlepool:
I think that if the Cornish people are all for this idea that they should be fully financed from Westminster,some of it could be repaid down the line with the rest of it being in the form of grants.Maybe its the time to let people do their thing instead of being domineered by traditionalist authoritarian types who are aftraid of change and jealous of those who arent afraid of it.
Just my loose thoughts on the subject,nothing more.

Yes, we might as well have a few more people coming into England conversing amongst themselves to the exclusion of the majority. No doubt if German plans come together, German will be accepted and imposed as the official EU language!

Divide and conquer!


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It will be an Independent Cornwall.
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Originally Posted by mr.growbag:
I live in the far south west and am a frequent visitor to Cornwall. I agree with RTL that any form of autonomy must be funded directly from Cornwall. You only have to look at the present devolution settlements between the home nations to see waht a shambles the whole thing is.
I feel Cornish interests would be furthered within an independent England. However if there was a significant percentage of people in opinion polls that favoured greater autonomy in Cornwall, then I would not object to a referendum being held for the people of Cornwall to decide their future.
The options could be
1; To remain as a county within an independent England.
2; Fiscal devolution, with Cornwall funding its own Assembly and contributing to England financially for all external matters.
3; Independence.

Cornwall is not constitutionally a county unless you are just going by de facto instead of de jure.

Could we not be in a conferedation with England where our seperate nations status is recognised, we have alot of automomy but we are not completely independent?
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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee:
Cornwall is not constitutionally a county unless you are just going by de facto instead of de jure.

Could we not be in a conferedation with England where our seperate nations status is recognised, we have alot of automomy but we are not completely independent?

Again it is all down to funding, and I'm sure you will recognise the complete inadequacies of the present devolution settlement within the home nations, the Barnett Formula etc. Cornwall is a loser because of this.
I have huge sympathies with the people of Cornwall in their economic struggles and problems with housing etc.
An independent England however would provide better funding for Cornwall, thus improving the economic situation. As for the housing crisis, this is really in the hands of your elected representatives who don't seem to have the clout to grasp the nettle and take action. They utter a great many words but do very little.
In Cornwall as part of an independent England, as RTL said you could call your council what you like. You could also promote Cornish culture from within that council, with special departments set up to do this. This would depend on what party is elected to run things in the council.
If Cornwall did opt for independence, it would still be a part of a Council of the Isles and co-operate with England.
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Well I'd love to see a confederate Britain with a ceremonial head of state but the central gov't having no power excpt as a non-binding meeting point for the relevant people of each nation or hopefully region on a few issues like foreign affairs and defence.

I don't want any funding from anyone else but I point out that it those who go about this are quite hysterical after all alot counties in England pay out more than their revenue brngs in such as Doreset and have to be funded by places like the South east of England.
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