As a relative new-comer I am hoping that somebody here is going to lead English nationalism out of the mire because it can't surely carry on like this.

I was told by somebody who proclaims to be involved with the Eng Dem campaign in Crewe, that their candidate there (David Roberts?) has also quit (along with several others) the party in desperation at their antics, that they begged Garry Bushell to step in as their candidate after O'Connor quit and he refused to do so and that Uncles is on 3 months non-neg gardening leave after he nearly hit the Christian Choice candidate in a row over O'Connor in the London Mayoral.

They are also said to be unable to repay the bank loans taken out to fund their election campaign and are still ranting on about O'Connor who has clearly long since moved on and apparently they are trying to sue him - all this whilst the Police have become involved at O'Connor's end apparently because nutty Eng Dem people have been harassing his family.

I doubt very much if the Eng Dems will trouble O'Connor given he has apparently been threatened with being shot at by the Police before and has taken on the UK government and judiciary.

If this is all true then it seems to me that the Eng Dems are the biggest liability to English nationalism going and if it isn't true then they should state their position - especially if there are going to be arrests!!!!

Please can somebody LEAD this movement because this situation is pathetic!


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I'm hoping the next incarnation will be a thoughtful and lasting one. People must not give up on England's future or she will be broken up and distributed and her people will lose their nation status and their ethnic identity.

It's up to the English now, and to nations everywhere world wide, really. They either fight to retain what is theirs by right and they work to develop and grow, or they fade away and are replaced or superseded. The English still have a choice. If they wait any longer that window will close. :-)

They do have it in them to rise and speak out and be counted. I think a new group and party that represents them may get it right this time. There is no reason why it should not. It all depends on the people. Can they go the distance and take the slings and arrows of the initial response? If they can, they will join the Scots in a new strong position in the Independence movement instead of tagging along with all the dreadful has beens and ex-government flunkies in the requests for a Parliament.

These requests will be met with derision because no one believes in the English as a nation any longer and believe they can kick them around and order them around and have become accustomed to English apathy or the terrible results of anti-English brainbrashing where the English have been taught to turn on their own people. This is largely our own fault worldwide as we are failing to deliver what is expected of us - and a certain something is expected. We do have a way of being and we have been cheated out of our right to it for a long time.

But things change, time's wheel turns and new blood rushes into the arteries and veins of movements that looked as though they were finished. It all depends on the people. With solidarity and common purpose Hitler was defeated and by all accounts he should have won as he had the advantage. But he lost. This should never be forgotten. The English, and indeed any nation that has common identity, need not fear any oppressor or aggressor.

All we need is solidarity and dedication and nothing can really stop us from reclaiming a country that was taken from us and is being used as the world's doormat. Our people are not the world's doormat. To hell with that. :-)
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Mike, you demonstrate what a malign hypocrite you really are!

Under the theme of "Eng Dems Self-Destruct", you ask if "somebody here is going to lead English nationalism out of the mire" and profess to plead "Please can somebody LEAD this movement because this situation is pathetic"!

However, you have NOTHING constructive to offer or suggest. All your post amounts to is snide comments about the EDP cloaked with pious pleas for leadership. Clearly with your nasty, mean minded character you are well out of the running!

You are exposed for what you truly are! If all you really want is effective leadership, there is no need to accompany your pleas with unnecessary criticism of the EDP. Unnecessary if what you say about the EDP is true; even more unnecessary if it is untrue!

In one particular you are correct: the situation is pathetic and made no less - perhaps even more - by the likes of you! We have come to expect this type of inadequate post from you.:-)


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Au contraire, cassie, we have come to expect this kind of malignant post from you.

What an uncalled for attack! What a barrage of insults! Why are you being so bitchy about Chartwell?
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Cassie is always like this - all I am saying is that Andrew Constantine and his team seem to be the people best placed to take this forward and from what I have seen everybody should give the Free England party full support and give it the opportunity of picking up where the Eng Dems left off before they destroy the cause.

Is that unreasonable or am I missing something here?

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Originally Posted by chartwell:
Cassie is always like this - all I am saying is that Andrew Constantine and his team seem to be the people best placed to take this forward and from what I have seen everybody should give the Free England party full support and give it the opportunity of picking up where the Eng Dems left off before they destroy the cause.

Is that unreasonable or am I missing something here?

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Yes, in company with that other inadequate who insists upon posting vacuous generalities here, you have 'missed something here'!

You have signally failed to explain why you NEED to post criticisms about the 'Eng Dems' whilst pleading for leadership . . . perhaps it's not only beyond your comprehension but also your competence to defend your position here.

Worse, you have now misrepresented your earlier posting by claiming it says something it does not! If you contend otherwise, perhaps you'll point out precisely where you said: " . . Andrew Constantine and his team seem to be the best people etc"? Indeed, where did you mention Andrew Constantine in your initial post at all?

As everyone here can see, you invent things to suit your feeble position. You really have no cause to be so smugly complacent. Besides, what have YOU ever done for England apart from 'mouth-off'?


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Cassie is the closest human equivalent I've ever come across to the phrase "like a broken record".

But never mind, cassie, we "inadequates" will be leaving you soon so you can pontificate from your little soap box to an audience hopefully devoid of those who are beneath you. Fortune favours the patient as well as the brave, so hang in there and we'll soon be gone. :-)
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Blimey Cassie, 'what have I ever done?' Only try and find a home for my views, ask some pertinent questions and support the best vehicle we have.

You didn't go the 'how to win new converts and influence people school' then did you?

No chance of you making it in politics then so best you stick to being an armchair critic and keep taking the medicine!
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Originally Posted by chartwell:
Blimey Cassie, 'what have I ever done?' Only try and find a home for my views, ask some pertinent questions and support the best vehicle we have.

You didn't go the 'how to win new converts and influence people school' then did you?

No chance of you making it in politics then so best you stick to being an armchair critic and keep taking the medicine!

Blimey chartwell, any chance of you reading my posts properly and understanding them? Just how thick can you get?

I'll try again: if all you want is leadership, why not just say so! Your plea need not be accompanied by unwanted, unjustified criticism of the EDP by a hypocritical 'newbie'!

It is to be hoped that someone with your subterranean standards never 'makes it' in politics!

If you can't take it, don't dish it out! :-)


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He wasn't dishing it out, as you well know.

Why do I always chirp on about your nasty comments? I don't want you to put people off the FEP. And this is the FEP forum section. :-)

Which makes you something of a :-) with your unpleasant commentary and insults.
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