Isn't it ironic how the the majority of people on this forum while being anti-EU, are staunchly pro-United Kingdom;

yet have been delivered the result they wanted by the one country which left the United Kingdom?

The result was tight - only 53% against. Yet if we had a close vote on leaving the EU or rejecting any treaties, it's quite possible the pro-EU Scots and Welsh could overturn the vote in England.

Then what price maintaining the UK then?
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Originally Posted by Northumbrian:
Isn't it ironic how the the majority of people on this forum while being anti-EU, are staunchly pro-United Kingdom;

yet have been delivered the result they wanted by the one country which left the United Kingdom?

The result was tight - only 53% against. Yet if we had a close vote on leaving the EU or rejecting any treaties, it's quite possible the pro-EU Scots and Welsh could overturn the vote in England.

Then what price maintaining the UK then?

In answer to your first question - NO!

Your point is rather silly! More pertinent might have been the irony of a constitution drawn up when Ireland left the UK, requiring such referenda to be held, when no such referendum has been held in the UK itself!!

As for your last question, it may be safely inferred that, regardless of what anyone else might suggest, the answer will be similar to the EU's response to this week's Irish referendum ie what the questioner wants the answer to be!


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How is my point silly? Surely the more nations there are, the more chance there is that someone throws a spanner in the works of the EU.

If Great Britain and Ireland were one nation, then the Irish wouldn't have been allowed to hold a referendum.
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Originally Posted by Northumbrian:
How is my point silly? Surely the more nations there are, the more chance there is that someone throws a spanner in the works of the EU.

If Great Britain and Ireland were one nation, then the Irish wouldn't have been allowed to hold a referendum.

You just love your hypotheticals don't you? The real world too much for you?

As my old mother used to say: "If 'ifs' and 'ands' were pots and pans, there'd be no need for tinkers!"


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Do you know what your problem is?

You lack the ability to produce any original ideas yourself, and all you can do is find ways to knock other people's ideas - generally.

What use are you to anyone?
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Originally Posted by Northumbrian:
Do you know what your problem is?

You lack the ability to produce any original ideas yourself, and all you can do is find ways to knock other people's ideas - generally.

What use are you to anyone?

Permit me to return the compliment.

YOU are obsessed with dissolving the UK! Consequently, many of your thoughts revolve around that obsession. This thread is yet another example of your obsession. You have taken an event not directly related to dissolving the UK, and twisted it in your troubled mind to try and find something, however, trivial to relate it to the continued existence of the UK.

NO, it is NOT ironical!
NO, it is NOT original!
NO, it is NOT useful to man or beast!

Pardon me for daring to disagree. :-)

I will forbear to question whether you have any utility. However, I am glad that I am not handicapped in the way you are!

Good day! :-)


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Originally Posted by cassie:
YOU are obsessed with dissolving the UK! Consequently, many of your thoughts revolve around that obsession. This thread is yet another example of your obsession. You have taken an event not directly related to dissolving the UK, and twisted it in your troubled mind to try and find something, however, trivial to relate it to the continued existence of the UK.

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Why should I support it when it never allowed the English to have their own parliament?
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Originally Posted by Northumbrian:
Why should I support it when it never allowed the English to have their own parliament?

Why indeed, and there was I thinking you were on about the EU Treaty vote in Ireland!

Always shifting ground aren't you Northumbrian when you've been rumbled!

Go on! Tell me off for daring to disagree with Northumbrian, the oracle and sage of the north!
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Originally Posted by Northumbrian:
How is my point silly? Surely the more nations there are, the more chance there is that someone throws a spanner in the works of the EU.

If Great Britain and Ireland were one nation, then the Irish wouldn't have been allowed to hold a referendum.

If the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland still existed then the people of what is now the Republic of Ireland would never have needed to enter the Common Market/EEC/EU in the first place to get something resembling a decent economy.


Perhaps, the Irish are realising that if they stay in the EU they will end-up not as a 'nation once again' but as a Province once again!
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Originally Posted by cassie:
Why indeed, and there was I thinking you were on about the EU Treaty vote in Ireland!

Always shifting ground aren't you Northumbrian when you've been rumbled!

Go on! Tell me off for daring to disagree with Northumbrian, the oracle and sage of the north!
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Hang on, you shifted ground by saying I was obsessed with wrecking the UK!

So how does this work? When you change the subject, you don't want anyone to reply to that?

Except apparently, you never change the subject?

Hmmm... I'll have to consider that paradox....
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