The British Yoke

Originally Posted by Ea of Dune:
I see this thread has gone off the rails. Maybe we could go back to discussing the British Yoke?

Ea of dune

It would appear to be impossible.
Observe the following:
Post # 34

Originally Posted by cassie:
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The Scots and Welsh love the English so much that major supermarkets are constrained to market English produce under the symbol of the Union Flag in order to weaken customer resistance! No such measure is felt to be necessary in England! Just who hates who?

Logic suggests that upward of 25% of customers in Scotland are resistant to English produce. How dare we English refer to such matters!
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The response? Post # 35

Originally Posted by SilverFalcon:
If they supposedly hate the English so intensely, why do some people, who seem to hate them back with equal ferocity, persist in desiring simultaneously to be splattered together with their foes in a Union? :-)

These posts illustrate why threads degenerate into flaming.

One might suppose that the respondent, did not agree with the proposition in Post#34. However, instead of directly addressing the proposition itself, Post#35 shifts onto other ground in order to make a cheap crack about Unionists. (Presumably, this was one of the witty, entertaining and constructive posts to which Andrew Constantine was referring earlier?)

What can we conclude from this? That SilverFalcon is either unwilling or unable to produce a convincing counter argument, or that she agrees with the proposition but is not magnanimous enough to say so! Such is the low level of what passes for debate on this Forum!

Of course, it's ALL my fault! Even so, why should ANY notice be taken of those unable to perceive their own shortcomings?

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I thought it was rather good, my little observation. Succinct, suggestive and with just a faint tinge of nasty. Perfect. I can't help it if you couldn't muster the same capability to answer it.

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Cassie, have you never got on with anyone?

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Originally Posted by david H:
Cassie, have you never got on with anyone?

david H, when did you stop beating your wife?

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Originally Posted by SilverFalcon:
I thought it was rather good, my little observation. Succinct, suggestive and with just a faint tinge of nasty. Perfect. I can't help it if you couldn't muster the same capability to answer it.

Self praise is no recommendation, particularly when you've just demonstrated (yet again) your propensity for missing the point, by a mile!

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Originally Posted by cassie:
Self praise is no recommendation, particularly when you've just demonstrated (yet again) your propensity for missing the point, by a mile!

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I agree, self praise is a terrible thing in the face of the cowering and the insipid. It tends to make matters worse for them when matters are already rather dreadful all on their own. Still, bragging is a ploy, as you should be aware, if you are truly English and it was used by our glorious ancestors (and our not so fortuitous ones) to build up the fighting spirit of the individual and his folk by enumerating skills in battle, capabilities in bringing home the bacon and in carving a name upon the lintel of the Hall, to be remembered when the individual had long since departed and become but a memory.

It is this memory, known in the Eddas as "the fame of a dead man's deeds", that make the Germanic folk, and the Celtic folk alike, so hard to beat when their blood is up and they are gazing not only at their people, but also down the long Hall's carved lintel and thinking of those who went before them and upon whose good names the good names of the future will depend for inspiration and example.

They were a wonderful people, the early West Germanics, a people of skills in metalwork, swordmaking, fighting and the arts. One look at the handle of a Saxon sword and your soul will cry out at the beauty and skill of the craftsmanship (and if not, then what kind of Englishman are you?). These lay for centuries under the soil and even after all this time, when they came back to us, they were like treasures from some fantasy, so fine were they.

It is not enough to harp on racial topics because it is really among the refinements and productivity of any people and any culture and any civilization that the reality of its people lie. Such is the beauty and the refinement of the Anglo-Saxon and Viking treasures to us. Their similar intertwined knotwork and delicate gem setting our pride. The warriors, aristocrats and kings who wore them, our bloodline treasures and the artisans who crafted them so respected as to have become figures in our mythology.

All this should be taught to English and Celtic children in special lessons at school, special cultural enrichment classes, that will bring back to these deprived youngsters, the gleam of the ancients and the struggle and victory, the passion and pain of their heritage. Every single individual on earth from every single culture and group deserves this privilege. And deserves, further, to house it in national archives round the world.

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Originally Posted by SilverFalcon:
I agree, self praise is a terrible thing in the face of the cowering and the insipid. It tends to make matters worse for them when matters are already rather dreadful all on their own. Still, bragging is a ploy, as you should be aware, if you are truly English and it was used by our glorious ancestors (and our not so fortuitous ones) to build up the fighting spirit of the individual and his folk by enumerating skills in battle, capabilities in bringing home the bacon and in carving a name upon the lintel of the Hall, to be remembered when the individual had long since departed and become but a memory.

It is this memory, known in the Eddas as "the fame of a dead man's deeds", that make the Germanic folk, and the Celtic folk alike, so hard to beat when their blood is up and they are gazing not only at their people, but also down the long Hall's carved lintel and thinking of those who went before them and upon whose good names the good names of the future will depend for inspiration and example.

They were a wonderful people, the early West Germanics, a people of skills in metalwork, swordmaking, fighting and the arts. One look at the handle of a Saxon sword and your soul will cry out at the beauty and skill of the craftsmanship (and if not, then what kind of Englishman are you?). These lay for centuries under the soil and even after all this time, when they came back to us, they were like treasures from some fantasy, so fine were they.

It is not enough to harp on racial topics because it is really among the refinements and productivity of any people and any culture and any civilization that the reality of its people lie. Such is the beauty and the refinement of the Anglo-Saxon and Viking treasures to us. Their similar intertwined knotwork and delicate gem setting our pride. The warriors, aristocrats and kings who wore them, our bloodline treasures and the artisans who crafted them so respected as to have become figures in our mythology.

All this should be taught to English and Celtic children in special lessons at school, special cultural enrichment classes, that will bring back to these deprived youngsters, the gleam of the ancients and the struggle and victory, the passion and pain of their heritage. Every single individual on earth from every single culture and group deserves this privilege. And deserves, further, to house it in national archives round the world.

Originally Posted by SilverFalcon:
Succinct, suggestive . . . . . . . Perfect. I can't help it if you couldn't muster the same capability to answer it.

HMMmm! Whatever it was, it seems to have been unrepeatable! :-)

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Originally Posted by cassie:
You can attack me for as long and as hard as you like, the facts are as I've set them out above. All that England and the English receive from you are whimsical opinions, but nothing concrete. As with Dundee Cake and David Hamilton, you are actually a divisive influence! Both Dundee Cake and David Hamilton do not regard themselves as first and foremost English.

So? I'm not very English, I'm Cornish and Scottish mostly.

What does this actually have to do with anything? I certainly am not anti-English and I support your parliament even if I think regionalism is better.

You of course have decided I'm anti-English for daring to suggest my Cornishness is not Englishness and that Cornwall should be autonomous.

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