Johnny Hates Jazz 12:24 AM 27-07-2008
I believe it is time for all the active English Parties to Unite and put differences aside to agree a common strategy and campaign for the European 2009 Elections.
English Democrats
Free England
England First
Englands Parliamentary Party (EPP)
What do others think ?
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Ea of Dune 02:42 AM 27-07-2008
Since England First have some prety nasty folks in them judging by the photos placed up here (sieg heil anyone?) I think the FEP and EPP are best to stay clear to be honest.
Ea of dune
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Andrew Constantine 09:12 AM 27-07-2008
It certainly is time for a united England, but that is another matter!
The Free England Party will not actively work with any party that condones breaking the law; but we will listen to what other respectable parties have to say to us.
Here is a marker: there has to be admission of personal responsibility where there have been some very poor behaviours. Trust once lost has to be re-built over time. So there may be some other key stages to be completed before we feel there could be personal trust placed in your party and in some of its leadership.
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Hartlepool 10:02 AM 27-07-2008
I understand that EFP are a new offshoot of the bnp,I would certainly not consider joining or being in a party that went into an agreement with them of any sort.
An agreement with other party's when necessary is the way to go,but not with the EFP,ever.
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Andrew Constantine 10:19 AM 27-07-2008
Originally Posted by Hartlepool:
I understand that EFP are a new offshoot of the bnp,I would certainly not consider joining or being in a party that went into an agreement with them of any sort.
An agreement with other party's when necessary is the way to go,but not with the EFP,ever.
Hartlepool
I agree with your sentiments.
Indeed, I would go further. Not only will the Free England Party not condone contact with the EFP, nor will we with parties that in turn condone contact with the EFP.
Regards, Andrew
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cassie 10:55 AM 27-07-2008
Originally Posted by Andrew Constantine:
It certainly is time for a united England, but that is another matter!
The Free England Party will not actively work with any party that condones breaking the law; but we will listen to what other respectable parties have to say to us.
That's hostage to fortune! [Hint: You don't envisage ever acquiring representation in the Commons then?]
Of course, 'condones breaking the law' and what are 'other respectable parties' are not only contradictory in certain circumstances, but also matters of interpretation!
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Northumbrian 11:09 AM 27-07-2008
Originally Posted by cassie:
That's hostage to fortune! [Hint: You don't envisage ever acquiring representation in the Commons then?]
Of course, 'condones breaking the law' and what are 'other respectable parties' are not only contradictory in certain circumstances, but also matters of interpretation!
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There is a difference though, on planning a joint electoral strategy as opposed to working with someone in a council or parliament etc.
For instance, if I had been elected to my city council this year I would have shared responsibility for my local ward with 2 Lib Dem councillors. I would have had to co-operate with them, even though I disagree with almost everything they stand for. I would never enter into any electoral pacts with them!
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cassie 12:24 PM 27-07-2008
Originally Posted by Northumbrian:
There is a difference though, on planning a joint electoral strategy as opposed to working with someone in a council or parliament etc.
For instance, if I had been elected to my city council this year I would have shared responsibility for my local ward with 2 Lib Dem councillors. I would have had to co-operate with them, even though I disagree with almost everything they stand for. I would never enter into any electoral pacts with them!
So, the moralistic statement
"The Free England Party will not actively work with any party that condones breaking the law; but we will listen to what other respectable parties have to say to us." is politically impractical!
I seem to recollect that all the major parties have 'condoned breaking the law'. The most frequent examples involve the failure to properly declare election expenses [pretty serious, eh?] and donations/loans. I suppose you can exempt all those fiddling their MPs' and MEPs' expenses!
Silly, point-scoring remarks are to be avoided; we all know who they are aimed at! There's a certain hypocrisy at work here. As I've said many times before [not necessarily aimed at you
Northumbrian!],
Don't dish it out if you can't take it!
Worse still, petty policy made on the hoof in response to others' misfortunes [even though they seem to have deserved them] do not add to a party's credibility! I would like to see the FEP make a positive impact on politics in England, but making sanctimonious statements of that kind won't help!
PS: I oppose
KeyStage2's suggestion also!
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ANGLO-STAFFS 10:59 PM 30-07-2008
Originally Posted by KeyStage2:
I believe it is time for all the active English Parties to Unite and put differences aside to agree a common strategy and campaign for the European 2009 Elections.
English Democrats
Free England
England First
Englands Parliamentary Party (EPP)
What do others think ?
I think it would be more realistic to try and float a brick than float this coalition!
English Democrats...Read their postings about FEP.
Free England....Read their postings about EDP.
England First...Rather eat dog-5h1t
Englands Parliamentary Party (EPP)....One parish councillor and one by-election. Hardly known in Stafford, totally unknown outside Stafford.
I can see the initial agenda now.
Item one. Who will be the leader.
Item two. Who will clear up all these smashed chairs.
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cassie 11:26 PM 30-07-2008
Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS:
I think it would be more realistic to try and float a brick than float this coalition!
English Democrats...Read their postings about FEP.
Free England....Read their postings about EDP.
England First...Rather eat dog-5h1t
Englands Parliamentary Party (EPP)....One parish councillor and one by-election. Hardly known in Stafford, totally unknown outside Stafford.
I can see the initial agenda now.
Item one. Who will be the leader.
Item two. Who will clear up all these smashed chairs.
You don't by any chance script for Bremner, Bird & Fortune do you?
:-)
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