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Wessexman 07:55 AM 02-08-2008

Originally Posted by cassie:
I think people are entitled to know the background of those promoting opinions about their nation.

Then why not tell them that instead of making it up. I have lived longer in Cornwall than Scotland, I lived there from the age of 10 for 16 years and will return as soon as possible.



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You Bonnie Dundee are obviously well aware of this factor, as evidenced by your vitriolic and unreasonable reaction! You are even silly enough to call me a liar [assuming that you even know and understand what is a liar!] According to you, I am a moron and now a liar.

Well I have told you many times before I lived along in Cornwall and partially grew up there. So you don't think comments like the below are not slightly dishonest then?]


English nationalists should be aware that this person was born in Scotland and raised there. He lived briefly in Cornwall and is now domiciled - however temporarily or otherwise - in Australia.

And of course you try and score points of my being in Australia to care for a sick parent.

All told it doesn't make you look like a good person.


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I conclude that you are yet another who would prefer to 'sail under false colours'! I draw this conclusion because, no matter how times others alluded to my origins, it would not evoke the violent reactions in me that it clearly does in you.

You didn't give an honest account of my "origins".


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I firmly object to your notions of regionalisation and fragmentation of England, and I am ensuring that those who read 'em know your background! :-)

Fine, but give them my real background instead of the false one you have been peddling.
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Andrew Constantine 09:54 AM 02-08-2008

Originally Posted by BonnieDundee:
Then why would Cassie bring it up?

You do not have to engage with cassie at all, even to the extent of one further post. Cassie clearly enjoys the cut and thrust of polemics and debate. I have better things to do with my time than spent it in argument with him.

I note that over quite a period cassie has seemed only to start these 'no holds' barred polemics with those who favour England. You have to draw your own conclusion as to why this might be.

While it is wholly others' personal decisions whether to debate with cassie or not, I have very much disapproved of some of cassie's posts on this forum (he is much more careful on the cosg forum...) and said so. I think his behaviour to some members of this forum has been beyond the pale.
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david H 10:03 AM 02-08-2008
I regard him as a closet enemy of English nationalism. I do not know who he works for but he is beavering to harm the cause as much as he can. He had to be thrown out of The English Democrats for causing trouble and on here he does nothing but stir up strife with English patriots. He even attacked The English Music Festival which a young woman worked hard to found and even harder to maintain under severe criticism from the establishment and rejections from The Arts Council.

Welcome to The English Music Festival
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cassie 10:19 AM 02-08-2008

Originally Posted by Andrew Constantine:
You do not have to engage with cassie at all, even to the extent of one further post. Cassie clearly enjoys the cut and thrust of polemics and debate. I have better things to do with my time than spent it in argument with him.

I note that over quite a period cassie has seemed only to start these 'no holds' barred polemics with those who favour England. You have to draw your own conclusion as to why this might be.

While it is wholly others' personal decisions whether to debate with cassie or not, I have very much disapproved of some of cassie's posts on this forum (he is much more careful on the cosg forum...) and said so. I think his behaviour to some members of this forum has been beyond the pale.

Your perception is far more subjective and warped than you realise Mr Constantine! If you doubt this, I am more than happy to illustrate this with more than your pronouncements, but with examples of your conduct - your actions!

One of your distortions is to misrepresent someone who (1) was born in Scotland (2) grew up there for a large part of his early life, including the bit where the Catholic Church is held to have said: "Give me the boy, and I will give you the man." (3) is currently domiciled abroad [for whatever reason, worthy or otherwise!] (4) claims to be cornish and NOT English (5) promotes the separation of Cornwall from England, as someone who "favours England"!

It is arguable that YOUR deeds - in particular, your action in flouncing out of the EDP and forming a group in opposition - are more damaging to the EDP than [thus far at least] helpful to England and, to use your snide approach, "You have to draw your own conclusion as to why this might be."

It is a hallmark of your snide criticisms that you resort to the general, instead of citing any particular facts! I disapprove of your posts, which amount to criticism by innuendo! You pose a some kind of sanctimonious vicar, whilst trying to shove in the shive as you have here!

It need hardly be said that, it is your personal decision, born of your conceit that you just had to poke your nose in! If you wish to defend posters such as Bonnie Dundee, by all means do so, but do it in an upright honourable manner, not in one more suitable for Messrs Slime and Slope!


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cassie 10:26 AM 02-08-2008

Originally Posted by david H:
I regard him as a closet enemy of English nationalism. I do not know who he works for but he is beavering to harm the cause as much as he can. He had to be thrown out of The English Democrats for causing trouble and on here he does nothing but stir up strife with English patriots. He even attacked The English Music Festival which a young woman worked hard to found and even harder to maintain under severe criticism from the establishment and rejections from The Arts Council.

Welcome to The English Music Festival

This is yet another of your daft posts!

What do you know? Nothing apart from what, like a jackel, you've gleaned!

I have NOT attacked the The English Music Festival and you cannot show this, just as you have been unable to show that any of your other allegations about me are true! Your use of English is pathetic and your connection with the truth even more so!

You are a racist! There! How do you like some of your own nasty medicine? The difference being I can demonstrate that you are by your silly utterances! :-)


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david H 11:06 AM 02-08-2008
Racialist actually, and racialism is the basis of nationality.
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cassie 11:21 AM 02-08-2008

Originally Posted by david H:
Racialist actually, and racialism is the basis of nationality.

No racist!

You are someone who regards it as 'insulting' to refer to others' origins! You are someone who would restrict voting for and election to a separate parliament and executive in England to those whom YOU define as ethnically English!

How's that for starters?


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Andrew Constantine 11:24 AM 02-08-2008

Originally Posted by BonnieDundee:
I'm just wondering what FEP policy is towards these movements(and I mean the expressively English ones not Cornish.) such as the Wessex regionalists and the Mercian regionalists?

As a decentralist I'm very supportive of them and the general stance of the FEP would tell me a lot about the party.

An independent England is needed to further the interests of the English. We wish to help establish a powerful and unified English nation state. With this we English can protect ourselves, further our own national interests and deal with the major issues of the day: withdrawing from foreign entanglements, exiting the EU, defeating British Moslem terrorism, restoring English culture and education, securing energy and food supplies, striking bi-lateral trade deals and on on.

If regionalist movements wish to play their full part in building a unified and properly democratic English state, and were to put any surplus energies into making their parts of England richer, better places to live with a strong and popular identity drawing from their great history ... then I would see them as allies.

But if these regionalist movements are at heart anti-English, then they may go to the devil.
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david H 12:33 PM 02-08-2008
Cassie, of course, you will make something up to get out of it or just contradict yourself, but that last post is a clear affirmation of a hollowed -out idea of England and English. You denoied you think that only a few posts earlier.
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cassie 01:44 PM 02-08-2008

Originally Posted by david H:
Cassie, of course, you will make something up to get out of it or just contradict yourself, but that last post is a clear affirmation of a hollowed -out idea of England and English. You denoied you think that only a few posts earlier.

Are you really English? Pity you've not acquired even rudimentary competence in one of the most fundamental components of English ethnicity - our own language!

You are such a dunce that you have been unable to address these statements: "You are someone who regards it as 'insulting' to refer to others' origins! You are someone who would restrict voting for and election to a separate parliament and executive in England to those whom YOU define as ethnically English!"

You are so stupid that you've permitted me to make these serious charges without even the attempt to rebut them. You might just as well put me on your ignore list for the total irrelevance and ineffectiveness of your effusions which bear little connection with what has precipitated them! Do you really believe that others here (and I don't mean just your cronies Andrew Constantine and Bonnie Dundee) do not see and read your inadequate responses?


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