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Free England Party>FEP and English regionalist movements.
BonnieDundee 03:13 AM 28-07-2008
I'm just wondering what FEP policy is towards these movements(and I mean the expressively English ones not Cornish.) such as the Wessex regionalists and the Mercian regionalists?


As a decentralist I'm very supportive of them and the general stance of the FEP would tell me alot about the party.
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ArthurC 07:12 AM 28-07-2008
And this one?

Cornish Stannary Parliament Archives
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BonnieDundee 07:17 AM 28-07-2008

Originally Posted by ArthurC:
And this one?

Cornish Stannary Parliament Archives

Well yes, but that is more a seperatist movement wanting to leave England rather an English regionalist movement. The Cornish regionalists mostly are for a Cornwall outside England so their ideas are probably best suited to a seperate discussion.
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Village Idiot 08:17 AM 28-07-2008
I'm not an FEP member.

It's a tricky one this, I share BD's support for the regions, but just as much on a cultural level as a political one. I suppose I'm an Englishman first, Berkshireman second. I know as a decentralist this should be the other way round! I know I just feel English more than a West Saxon!

I oppose the govt's phoney euro-zones, but I support cultural and historic regions. I think English nationalism and regionalism could complement each other. I think no nation can claim uniform adherence from all its people. Every country has regions with different vibes. With England the North has a different feel to it than the South West. kent is distincty from Lancs
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Little Englander (sour) 12:04 PM 28-07-2008
Supposing all this "regionalisation took place, would an attack on Cornwall be deemed an attack on Yorkshire and the rest of the regionalised governments? would the other regional governments march to the aid of their erstwhile "countrymen"?
Who would form and implement "foreign policy"?
Would it be a free for all on law and order issues or would each regional government form and implement it's own policies in this field?

These are only the "tip of the iceberg" questions that regionalisation throws up and, to me, not very much of the grey matter has been exercised in it's implementation and the subsequent problems.
Look at devolution, who thought that it would come to this sorry plight - everyone except the tw@s in government.
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Andrew Constantine 12:42 PM 28-07-2008
The title above summarises this FEP member's 'off the cuff' reaction.

We will have to take a look at these issues, but I think our starting point is that we are 100% dead against the break-up of England into regions.

With an independent England's abrupt exit from the EU, we would expect that regionalisation would die a death in any event.

We will place real importance on re-building the confidence and powers of our traditional counties. 'Counties' compared to 'regions' means something, and are based in English history and society.

What do other Free England Party members think?
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Village Idiot 01:18 PM 28-07-2008
I think giving maximum power to existing County and District councils is the way to go. Most people have an affinity to their County (horrible Norman word, that. I prefer 'Shires'!) not to Mercia or Wessex, although there is no harm in seeing a cultural renaissance connected to the old historic regions.
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Andrew Constantine 01:23 PM 28-07-2008

Originally Posted by Village Idiot:
I think giving maximum power to existing County and District councils is the way to go. Most people have an affinity to their County (horrible Norman word, that. I prefer 'Shires'!) not to Mercia or Wessex, although there is no harm in seeing a cultural renaissance connecting to the old historic regions.

I know it's not the done thing on this forum to show agreement with another post, but I am in agreement with your above post.

The - historic - rich cultural diversity of England means that there is always so much to learn about our history and we should not write any part of it off - and certainly not without careful enquiry beforehand.
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Hartlepool 01:44 PM 28-07-2008
Its a no brainer for the FEP to start the English ball rolling by referring to the Counties of England.

The only time I would refer to Regions is when referring to Scotland,NI and Wales.

The mere words, "The English Counties" are a veritable beacon of This England.

The use of such simple wording as this by the FEP will regenerate a feeling of Englishness in some again,give it a try,why not?
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Ea of Dune 02:09 PM 28-07-2008
I agree with many of the sentiments above. Counties should be the first and foremost way of devolving power post-Independence.
However the idea of using the Heptachy as a way of grouping shires both geographically, dialectally and culturally could have cultural benefits.
It would be good for organising cultural bodies for example for cross county partnerships.
I think in some parts of the country these historic titles are still used in some manner. This seems to be especially the case in East Anglia where you will see news papers such as the East Anglian Daily Times, the University of East Anglia, etc. or in the Midlands where we have the Mercian Regiment.

However I think it really should be from a cultural standpoint not from a administrative standpoint.
People can then associate with it as much as they please without feeling an extra layer of government between shire and parliament becoming a burden.

Since I presume the FEP will fight the Euro elections, maybe you could rename some of your Euro regions by their historic titles e.g. Merica, East Anglia and Wessex?

Ea of dune
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