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Danny 04:09 PM 20-08-2008
This is good for debate taken from the FEP website.Questions for FEP to answer

'Devil's advocate' questions about independence


1) How far would it go? Would immigration borders be placed in border zones? It would feel strange needing a passport to enter Scotland.

2) Would it not weaken us militarily? Our armed forces have always worked together well.

3) What would happen to the other nations? A separate PM?

4) What responsibilities and powers would a Council of the Isles have? How large would it be? How much funding would it have?

5) Would there be any change in the role or powers of the monarchy?
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Purging The Liberal 06:17 PM 20-08-2008

Originally Posted by Danny:
This is good for debate taken from the FEP website.Questions for FEP to answer

'Devil's advocate' questions about independence


1) How far would it go? Would immigration borders be placed in border zones? It would feel strange needing a passport to enter Scotland.

2) Would it not weaken us militarily? Our armed forces have always worked together well.

3) What would happen to the other nations? A separate PM?

4) What responsibilities and powers would a Council of the Isles have? How large would it be? How much funding would it have?

5) Would there be any change in the role or powers of the monarchy?

6) What would happen to British overseas territories (e.g. Falkland Islands) if/when England becomes an independent nation state?
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Independent UKIP 12:19 AM 21-08-2008
If those are really 'Devil's Advocate' questions then said Devil seems to be leaning towards supporting the end of the Union in favour English independence. :-)

Perhaps one of you should put themselves in the role of Paxman, for example, and then ask some more realistic and serious questions of your party.

For the benefit of 'Purging The Liberal', I asked your very question a few weeks ago. Unless SilverFalcon is allowed to respond on behalf of Free England, which is not my understanding (rightly or wrongly), then no response was offered by their senior officers on this forum to that question.
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SilverFalcon 08:27 AM 21-08-2008
Originally Posted by Independent UKIP

Originally Posted by :
If those are really 'Devil's Advocate' questions then said Devil seems to be leaning towards supporting the end of the Union in favour English independence.

Perhaps one of you should put themselves in the role of Paxman, for example, and then ask some more realistic and serious questions of your party.

For the benefit of 'Purging The Liberal', I asked your very question a few weeks ago. Unless SilverFalcon is allowed to respond on behalf of Free England, which is not my understanding (rightly or wrongly), then no response was offered by their senior officers on this forum to that question.

I would like to put into perspective what cassie and his twin have falsely claimed, in case their bolshie psychological tactics are penetrating and people think I may be of some significance in the FEP.

I do not belong to the membership of the FEP because I believe that the people who have their knives out for me, have always had them out for me and seem to come from some other political realm, would use my membership to try and harm the party. Their antics on here are proof of this aspiration. I support the FEP because I support independence for England. And of course I support England and the English no matter what happens to them politically as I am standing in my forebears' shoes, in their tradition, and I shall die in these shoes because this is my family's duty and always has been. Whether some people want to silence me or not.

For others who think I may be speaking for the FEP, I am not speaking for them and have no orders from them and do not wish to make it look as though I do. They are fully capable of speaking for themselves. And that is all. Anything cassie and the oddball may have to say is pure fantasy, unless corroborated by me personally, bearing in mind they have no right whatsoever to ask me any personal questions nor to insult me nor anyone else at will. The fact that they do is a feature of the delightful world we live in. Some of us would like to change that so that we can help to win back our people's integrity.
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cassie 12:28 PM 21-08-2008

Originally Posted by SilverFalcon:
Originally Posted by Independent UKIP


I would like to put into perspective what cassie and his twin have falsely claimed, in case their bolshie psychological tactics are penetrating and people think I may be of some significance in the FEP.

I do not belong to the membership of the FEP because I believe that the people who have their knives out for me, have always had them out for me and seem to come from some other political realm, would use my membership to try and harm the party. Their antics on here are proof of this aspiration. I support the FEP because I support independence for England. And of course I support England and the English no matter what happens to them politically as I am standing in my forebears' shoes, in their tradition, and I shall die in these shoes because this is my family's duty and always has been. Whether some people want to silence me or not.

For others who think I may be speaking for the FEP, I am not speaking for them and have no orders from them and do not wish to make it look as though I do. They are fully capable of speaking for themselves. And that is all. Anything cassie and the oddball may have to say is pure fantasy, unless corroborated by me personally, bearing in mind they have no right whatsoever to ask me any personal questions nor to insult me nor anyone else at will. The fact that they do is a feature of the delightful world we live in. Some of us would like to change that so that we can help to win back our people's integrity.

This has nothing to do with the thread, and you are in danger of falling foul of the Mod warning given here: http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/free...d-content.html

The RELEVANT point you've managed to cloud with irrelevancies is that: "no response was offered by their senior officers on this forum to that question." [See Independent UKIP's last post].


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SilverFalcon 12:58 PM 21-08-2008
I can't see your posts, cassie, you are on my ignore list. My post was merely informative concerning myself and the FEP. I am just an ordinary person who supports England. I have committed no crimes and I have a perfect right to exist as an individual without being constantly upbraided as a lunatic.
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Northumbrian 08:25 PM 21-08-2008

Originally Posted by Purging The Liberal:
6) What would happen to British overseas territories (e.g. Falkland Islands) if/when England becomes an independent nation state?

My belief is that they would remain with England at the initial stage, because to all intents and purpose England would be the successor state to the United Kingdom.

However, because of the major constitutional change, it would only be right if they were free to choose their eventual status, which would either be:

1. Independence
2. An overseas territory of England
3. An overseas territory of any of the former non-English nations of the UK.
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the englishman 12:04 AM 22-08-2008
The party answered my 'devil's advocate' questions quite well I thought. It's introduced me to a new idea.
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Purging The Liberal 06:49 PM 23-08-2008

Originally Posted by Northumbrian:
My belief is that they would remain with England at the initial stage, because to all intents and purpose England would be the successor state to the United Kingdom.

However, because of the major constitutional change, it would only be right if they were free to choose their eventual status, which would either be:

1. Independence
2. An overseas territory of England
3. An overseas territory of any of the former non-English nations of the UK.

Thank you for your kind answer. :-)
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Richard the Lionheart 11:35 AM 25-08-2008
<Infraction awarded - post deleted as warned. If you don't want to debate - then there is no need to continually post statements saying so. Just put people on 'ignore'. C_S>
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