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Free England Party>FEP and Elections.
Danny 02:57 PM 25-08-2008
With next years Euro elections and the next General Election being almost certainly be in 2010.It will be Interesting to see if FEP stands candidates in either of these elections or will they have there eye on the local elections first.DEBATE
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Village Idiot 03:10 PM 25-08-2008
depends on the internal state of the FEP come 2010. I can't see them standing in all nine euro regions (the EDP should make it). Maybe, on present strengh, the FEP will stand in a couple of regions (London, SE?) although funding will be an issue here.

As for the GE, well maybe 1 to 4 or 5 seats, I would've thought.

The FEP, as they currently are, are right to concentrate on the locals. Its common sense: cheap enough, and starting from the bottom up. Where they have (skeletal?) branches, they should be aiming to build up good local reputations with the electorate. Ones like: hot on bread and butter issues, case work, 'doing the sitting councilor's work for them, but letting everyone know about it. establishing local regular newsletter highlighting both the national question and the bread and butter is the right way to gaining their first councillors and the kudos this will bring.
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ANGLO-STAFFS 08:09 PM 25-08-2008
I would be very surprised and disappointed to see FEP try to stand candidates in the EU elections. For the vast majority of people in England they are seen as the most useless set of elections held here. If the FEP were to win every single English Euro seat it would not bring English independence one single day closer. UKIP have found to their cost that MEP's are at best useless and at worst a total liability.
At this very early stage in the life of the FEP I would caution against attempting to stand more than a couple of GE candidates. Maybe in areas were a local candidate has given the FEP name a bit of publicity.
If English Parliamentary by-elections arise then it might be worth seeing if the deposit can be raised. By-elections always generate more publicity for small parties. In the GE they are buried in with all of the bigger parties.
IMHO local election should be the way forward for the first few years.
There are people both within the FEP and outside that will try to goad the party into over stretching itself. These will, in the main, be for personal rather than political reasons. They are best ignored
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Richard the Lionheart 08:19 PM 25-08-2008
Our position is that we will only stand where we have a chance to make an impact, and if we can afford it. We believe that we are in this for the long haul and therefore we seek to build support at ward level first. From there, to county council level, then if things have proved successful, to parliamentary constituency level.

Remember, once a few nationalists are elected to Westminster, it could trigger an avalanche, or force the established parties to adopt pro-England policies.
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ANGLO-STAFFS 09:29 PM 26-08-2008
Richard. It is the thought of your last few words above which worry me. The big three parties adopting 'pro English policies' would, IMHO, wreck any English Independence movement.
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the englishman 11:46 PM 28-08-2008

Originally Posted by ANGLO-STAFFS:
Richard. It is the thought of your last few words above which worry me. The big three parties adopting 'pro English policies' would, IMHO, wreck any English Independence movement.

Perhaps it would cause short term damage but I think in the long run people will realise any "pro English" stance - especially by the big two - is vacuous. The backlash could result in votes for newer, genuine pro-English parties.

I recall Brown's phony "British jobs for British workers" farcical speech. He used the word "British" something like fifty times. Nobody was fooled.
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Danny 09:23 AM 08-09-2008
In relation to elections and the link between FEP and the English Independence party now confirmed.It should be Interesting how it all works out in elections.
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Danny 11:40 AM 08-09-2008
In relation to elections and the link confirmed between FEP and the English Independence party.I wonder what the voters will think of the following.

English Independence Party.
www.englishindependenceparty.com
POPULATION CONTROL

4.1 Our philosophy
We believe that in an increasingly mobile world, one of the most important responsibilities of an English government is POPULATION CONTROL. We need to control the number of people living in England in relation to our population density, urban:rural balance, the impact of road building on cities and countryside, etc. We also need to control who lives in England in relation to the need to maximize social cohesion and a sense of community, and in order to preserve our English identity as a people of Scandinavian origin. We deplore those irresponsible political parties which have operated an open-door policy since the Second World War. Immigration is an emotive issue but it must be faced. WHAT IS IMMIGRATION? It is when individuals or families uproot themselves from their home country and culture on the assumption that the economic benefit of living in another country will be greater than the loss of their roots. For the receiving nation it means the accommodation of people from an alien identity and culture, most of whom initially make severe economic demands, some of whom become permanent financial drains. It also means in the longer term an expanding number of citizens in a host country who are only partially committed to the country in which they live. At a local level it means indigenous people, usually in relatively poor urban areas, experiencing an influx of foreigners transforming their locality so that it can hardly any more be described as being part of their own country. It was a MISTAKE to allow post-WW2 mass immigration from the British Empire, and we are now suffering the consequences.

4.2 Reduced population of England
We will bring about a reduction in the population of England from 50 million to less than 45 million people. This will reduce all our problems of congestion, including pressure for more new housing in our precious countryside.

4.3Immigration,
We will allow NO MORE IMMIGRATION into England. We will enforce this by increasing the resources of the Customs and Immigration Service, using available military personnel when convenient.

4.4 Repatriation
Over time we will encourage post-WW2 non-European mass immigrants to return to their countries of origin, culture and extended families.

4.5European migration and anti-Semitism
European migration needs to be considered in relation to our policy on EUROPE GENERALLY, AND THE EU IN PARTICULAR. European migrants will tend to return to their country when its economy and welfare system is comparable to our own. At times we might welcome temporary migration from Europe, such as the proposal to recruit surplus Spanish doctors due to our failure to train enough of our own. We are opposed to anti-Semitism. During the 20th Century Jews migrated from Europe to England at a time when they had NO HOMELAND OF THEIR OWN. It is also appropriate to note the exceptional contribution to British society of cultured Jews from developed European countries. Pre-WW2 Jewish immigration is not to be confused with the unnecessary and undesirable mass immigration from the British Empire.

4.6 Political asylum
The present asylum system means continued immigration into England every time there is a political crisis somewhere in the world. Asylum seekers should be required to take refuge in neighbouring slates so that they can easily return home. We will accept only EXCEPTIONAL CASES of asylum seekers on a short-term basis, and only subject to the direct personal initiative of the English Home Secretary. If a country is so misgoverned as to cause an exodus of asylum seekers, we consider ourselves justified in putting pressure on that country, diplomatic or military, until stable government is achieved.

4.7 Racial discrimination and victimization
The responsibility for RACIAL DISCRIMINATION as a response to mass immigration lies with those British politicians who allowed excessive immigration into England in the past. We will remove racial discrimination as a separate area of law on the grounds of the Englishman's historic right of freedom of thought and speech. We will oppose all forms of VICTIMISATION, including those on grounds of religion or race. This includes the victimization of English people. If anyone deserves to be prosecuted about unwanted immigration it is the British politicians responsible.
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Northumbrian 07:15 PM 08-09-2008
Well what do you think? Do you have a point or are you trying to bore people?
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Jeff 07:20 PM 08-09-2008
He has a goal to shut down the FEP Section by constantly antagonising all those who post on here,and all those newcomers who would actually like to debate and post on here as well.

He has blocked this part of the BDF again.
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