Originally Posted by Andrew Constantine:
It may be that political parties find it hard to remain in the same position. They are on the up - or the down. This may be partly because media attention and the electorate's views are dynamic, so when some are in favour, others will lose out.

Another reason is that consequences flow from doing the right things (having a powerful message, good judgements being made, solvent finances and in-flows of cash, recruitment of good members). At present the Free England Party is on a roll, and we are growing quickly.

In contrast to the Free England Party's current success and good fortune, look at some other parties which are going downhill quickly: Labour, UKIP etc.

Political parties seem to be another illustration of the Darwinian theory about survival of the fittest.

In relation to thread topic for debate when will FEP over take UKIP and Constantines post above which is all hot air all spin and no substance.Constantine himself posed the question in the thread title when will FEP over take UKIP.?HE Constantine quotes FEP are on a roll and growing quickly wheres your evidence to back that up Mr Constantine.?5 more members joined perhaps wow rather than spinning dont you think you would of being better backing up the above post with facts and figures(evidence) rather than meaningless waffle PR with no evidence to back your claims up.
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There's nothing remarkable about UKIP and I fail to see why someone could think they are invincible. They have some EP members and one (defected) MP and perform abysmally in local elections. Given the difference in UK/English ideology between the two parties, there is no reason whatsoever why a well run, fresh English nationalist party cannot overtake UKIP. After all, UKIP have somehow failed to capitalise on the anti-EU sentiment or concerns over immigration. Perhaps this is partly due to the fact that UKIP have the image of old school Tories and appeal mainly to older voters. It took them a while to wake up to this and change their image.

I agree with the poster who suggested the BNP will become stronger but they have strong opposition in elite places and for obvious reasons have a limited electorate base.

As has been noted, Labour started as a fringe group and were considered massive underdogs but they began at a time of change in politics and they proved people wrong. We are now at another time of change and people are looking for a new voice. Overtaking UKIP could be just the first hurdle on the track for a well run nationalist party.
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The thread statement for debate posted by Constantine was silly and coming from a so called party leader in which FEP is just over six months is just plain daft.
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Originally Posted by Andrew Constantine:
It may be that political parties find it hard to remain in the same position. They are on the up - or the down. This may be partly because media attention and the electorate's views are dynamic, so when some are in favour, others will lose out.

Another reason is that consequences flow from doing the right things (having a powerful message, good judgements being made, solvent finances and in-flows of cash, recruitment of good members). At present the Free England Party is on a roll, and we are growing quickly.

In contrast to the Free England Party's current success and good fortune, look at some other parties which are going downhill quickly: Labour, UKIP etc.

Political parties seem to be another illustration of the Darwinian theory about survival of the fittest.

I'm remain unconvinced that Darwin's theory strictly applies here. After all, political parties have electors to contend with!

One often finds that proud pronouncements can rebound and bite one on the rear end! Interesting that this thread materialises just after the Pin Green by-election has been called in which both the FEP and UKIP have put up candidates.

It is to be hoped that BOTH anti-EU party candidates do well but, if UKIP trumps Richard, you can expect your enemies [of which I do NOT include myself as one] to trumpet the fact! Frankly, I expect Richard - having 'worked' the Ward on at least two earlier occasions - to benefit from all his hard work . . . but, as GBS once wrote, you never can tell!

Good luck Richard! I hope UKIP (as another anti-EU party) will also put up a creditable performance but with the FEP gaining the seat! As I said: you never can tell! :-)


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