Aardvark 12:08 PM 22-06-2008
Has anybody seen twizzel, former, but now expelled, chairman of Henley UKIP, co-speaker with Nick Griffin and 'leader' of the treason initiative campaigning in Henley? Has he been supporting UKIP or BNP? Is there a poster in his house window showing support for a candidate?
Has aarable, Dave Barnby, committee member of nearby Witney UKIP and supporter of the Marlborough group been campaigning in Witney (he did, admirably, travel to support the North East No campaign and to demonstrate in Nice IIRC)? Was he at Ashley Mote's rally on 15th June? Dave is also a leading light in the treason campaign and provided the CD of papers on which it is based.
I've been working overseas and have yet to get to Henley; who will I meet there if I go down this week (although I now have a busy diary leading to a meeting in London on Wednesday)?
Idle curiosity.
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Vortex 10:02 AM 23-06-2008
Good morning Aardvark. I was campaigning in Henley yesterday, or rather some of the outlying villages. The campaign team photograph is posted on the main BNP website (we had 30 plus people out yesterday, in addition to Tim Rait's mobile loudspeaker cars), so you can look at the photograph and see if there's anyone you recognise, but Twizzle isn't there. The forum's very own Vortex is in shot however!
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twizzel 06:39 PM 23-06-2008
Originally Posted by Vortex:
Good morning Aardvark. I was campaigning in Henley yesterday, or rather some of the outlying villages. The campaign team photograph is posted on the main BNP website (we had 30 plus people out yesterday, in addition to Tim Rait's mobile loudspeaker cars), so you can look at the photograph and see if there's anyone you recognise, but Twizzle isn't there. The forum's very own Vortex is in shot however!:-)
Twizzel has been and is leafleting in Thame, at the request of Steve Harris(the cheek of the man)
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ukiprule 06:44 PM 23-06-2008
Originally Posted by twizzel:
Twizzel has been and is leafleting in Thame, at the request of Steve Harris(the cheek of the man)
Steve harris is UKIP isnt he
:-)
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Vortex 08:00 PM 23-06-2008
Originally Posted by ukiprule:
Steve harris is UKIP isnt he:-)
I believe he is, and its a shame that UKIP doesn't show the sort of loyalty to Twizzle that he is showing to his former comrades. His sin? To speak to a couple of BNP meetings, where he was met with courtesy and respect, things that seem to be lacking in UKIP.
:-)
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Originally Posted by Vortex:
I believe he is, and its a shame that UKIP doesn't show the sort of loyalty to Twizzle that he is showing to his former comrades. His sin? To speak to a couple of BNP meetings, where he was met with courtesy and respect, things that seem to be lacking in UKIP.:-)
Why would a self-describedly "libertarian, non-racist party" show any "courtesy and respect" to the draconian racists in the BNP? Yes. His sin.
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blueblood1920 09:11 PM 23-06-2008
Originally Posted by UkipHM:
Why would a self-describedly "libertarian, non-racist party" show any "courtesy and respect" to the draconian racists in the BNP? Yes. His sin.
UKIP dont seem to be rejecting his help though, is he banned from UKIP or not surely you cant have such nasty people who share platforms with fascists be seen as being part of you so lovely cuddly UKIP.
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Vortex 09:22 PM 23-06-2008
Originally Posted by UkipHM:
Why would a self-describedly "libertarian, non-racist party" show any "courtesy and respect" to the draconian racists in the BNP? Yes. His sin.
Harris: You are aware of some of the things Nigel Farage has said, that have got him labelled a "racist" by the PC brigade aren't you? He has no problem with former National Front members like Buster Mottram assisting him, and no doubt Mottram has changed. After all when he joined the NF he was an idealistic schoolboy who thought he knew it all, and has since matured and become a little worldy wise.
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Originally Posted by Vortex:
Harris: You are aware of some of the things Nigel Farage has said, that have got him labelled a "racist" by the PC brigade aren't you? He has no problem with former National Front members like Buster Mottram assisting him, and no doubt Mottram has changed. After all when he joined the NF he was an idealistic schoolboy who thought he knew it all, and has since matured and become a little worldy wise.
Show me one thing Farage has said that show him to support racial discrimination and white supremacism. And I don't always rigidly follow the "PC brigade". Some of the things they label as 'racist' are ludicrous. I don't know what Mottram has said/done so I cannot pass judgment in that respect.
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Vortex 10:10 PM 23-06-2008
Originally Posted by UkipHM:
Show me one thing Farage has said that show him to support racial discrimination and white supremacism. And I don't always rigidly follow the "PC brigade". Some of the things they label as 'racist' are ludicrous. I don't know what Mottram has said/done so I cannot pass judgment in that respect.
According to UKIP's founder Alan Sked, Farage is supposed to have said to him "We will never get the n****r vote, the n*g n**s will never vote for us". To be fair to Farage, this hasn't been proven as far as I'm aware and is possibly sour grapes from Sked.
Buster Mottram joined the National Front in 1975 and was a member of the Richmond Branch. he wrote an article for John Tyndall's magazine
Spearhead entitled "Why I joined the National Front". He certainly gave talks to several branches.
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