Originally Posted by blueblood1920:
Dont see how that is fair, democratic, libertarian or what ever other tags you like to attach to yourself.

It's a private forum, so whatever the moderators want to do they can. Perfectly consistent with fairness, democracy and libertarianism.
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Originally Posted by mrabody:
It's a private forum, so whatever the moderators want to do they can. Perfectly consistent with fairness, democracy and libertarianism.

Indeed it is a private forum, but it is built on the principles of free speech, democracy and of course provision for intelligent and rational debate in order to find common ground, and encourage discourse.
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Originally Posted by Vortex:
Indeed it is a private forum, but it is built on the principles of free speech, democracy and of course provision for intelligent and rational debate in order to find common ground, and encourage discourse.

I thought Griffin had told BNP members to use "brick, the boot and the fist," and that "power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate"?
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Originally Posted by UkipHM:
I thought Griffin had told BNP members to use "brick, the boot and the fist," and that "power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate"?

You are like a stuck record, you have been told that he has taken back them comments and said that he was wrong to make them. If we were to go on peoples past on things like that then there would be a lack of politicians in Liverpool one of the main militant cities in its time.
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Originally Posted by blueblood1920:
You are like a stuck record, you have been told that he has taken back them comments and said that he was wrong to make them. If we were to go on peoples past on things like that then there would be a lack of politicians in Liverpool one of the main militant cities in its time.

Show me where he retracted those two statements. And the fact that the BNP and Griffin were so obviously fascist extremists in the first place does you no credit. Just look at the stuff Wowbanger posts. That guy has some sense.
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Shouldn't you be paying homage to saint Nelson on the telly Harris?:-)
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Originally Posted by UkipHM:
Show me where he retracted those two statements. And the fact that the BNP and Griffin were so obviously fascist extremists in the first place does you no credit. Just look at the stuff Wowbanger posts. That guy has some sense.

In a speech at Luton in March 2007 for one. But I'm afraid you'll have to take my word for it, the BBC may have been there to record it, but as they found just decent patriots and not the stereotypes they seek to portray they didn't use any of the footage.:-)
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Originally Posted by blueblood1920:
Considering this is prime UKIP territory I would say it was a terrible result.

Correct, if UKIP can't save their deposit and can't beat the BNP in a seat like Henely, where will they :-)
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The good news is that the voters may be becoming more eurosceptic all the time.

The bad news is that they still think the Tory party will do something about EU power.
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Originally Posted by eublues:
The good news is that the voters may be becoming more eurosceptic all the time.

The bad news is that they still think the Tory party will do something about EU power.

To be fair we haven't yet heard their proposal for a new European Parliament grouping. When they release it, we can see that Dave the Chameleon is all mouth and no trousers.
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