Originally Posted by bdf4bnp:
UKIP are deluding themselves that this is all about hard graft. You have had massive media coverage of late. The EU wind was blowing heavily in your favour, yet you got beaten soundly by the most vilified party in politics.

You are backing a corpse. Realise this and then cut your loses. All real patriots will be welcome in my party.

Why would I support for a party that would either deport my wife and I or throw us into a concentration camp?

Why would I support a party who considers me immoral for having a mixed race child?

Why would I support a party that believes in state control of industry and tariff barriers?

Why would I support a party that is governed by the "leadership principle"?

Why would I support a party that is run by sum crank who goes everywhere with a bunch of big goons, looking like a complete loon in the process?

Why would I support a party that is just a vehicle to fund it's leader's lifestyle and that is so financially bereft that it couldn't complete its 2006 accounts in time?
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The only surprise about the Henley result was that almost 10k people actually voted for the Lib-Dems ,a party which has got absolutely nothing to contribute to British political life.
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Originally Posted by UkipHM:
In retrospect how could UKIP have done better in Henley? What was holding them back? How can we improve campaigns in the future (esp. the 2009 European Elections)?

Being basically extreme Tories in all but name.

They don't attract the extreme right like the BNP but also don't attract the non-Toryesque eurosceptic either. They need to properly break from the Tories and attract as many euro-sceptics as possible.
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What hasnt been said is having a message that connects with what voters are actually concerned about and explaining why voting UKIP is the answer not BNP Green etc.
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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee:
Being basically extreme Tories in all but name.

They don't attract the extreme right like the BNP but also don't attract the non-Toryesque eurosceptic either. They need to properly break from the Tories and attract as many euro-sceptics as possible.

UKIP is an 'extreme Tory' party because most of its members are rightwing Tories.

Do you expect them to go round pretending not to be what they are?
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Originally Posted by Mikeuk:
UKIP is an 'extreme Tory' party because most of its members are rightwing Tories.

Do you expect them to go round pretending not to be what they are?

Well Mike that has to change now!, we cant be a Tory suck up party anymore we have to reach out to others and not be hoping that the CONs will save us.

It's not gonna happen while the Blue labour lot are running the show.

Forget getting them to change back now, start hurting them for lying to us along with the other two parties.
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Originally Posted by steve fowler:
Well Mike that has to change now!, we cant be a Tory suck up party anymore we have to reach out to others and not be hoping that the CONs will save us.

It's not gonna happen while the Blue labour lot are running the show.

Forget getting them to change back now, start hurting them for lying to us along with the other two parties.

Nobody's sucking up to the Tories.

We just have the same ideas we had before Skidmark took over the Tories and persecuted the decent membership.
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[quote=Aardvark;517511] I am currently owed thousands of pounds and am overdrawn as a result. When I have money I will contribute.

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If you're boracic Aardvark then you should join the BNP!

It is also fair to say that the anti-EU wind was blowing for all anti-EU parties, including the BNP, and they did not actually hugely benefit from it, either. Maybe the truth is, that the gross British public simply don't give a monkey's dangly bits about the EU, at least at present, and until the EU can actually be seen to be doing harm to the gross British public, will they turn against it in their droves.

Despite all attempts to blame the EU for things done in the UK in the name of EU rules and regulations, people just do not make the association to the EU, and generally either blame UK politicians or the "world situation". I consider the major fault lies with the media, as they and they alone are the primary source of "news" for the masses, and it is the media that does not choose (or dare) to make the link with the EU, so the beast gets away with daylight truth robbery.
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Originally Posted by mrabody:
Why would I support for a party that would either deport my wife and I or throw us into a concentration camp?

Why would I support a party who considers me immoral for having a mixed race child?

Why would I support a party that believes in state control of industry and tariff barriers?

Why would I support a party that is governed by the "leadership principle"?

Why would I support a party that is run by sum crank who goes everywhere with a bunch of big goons, looking like a complete loon in the process?

Why would I support a party that is just a vehicle to fund it's leader's lifestyle and that is so financially bereft that it couldn't complete its 2006 accounts in time?

Let's not get excited about the BNP. They have no prospect of taking power.

We will achieve higher votes than the BNP by presenting a coherent alternative to the large parties. Squabbling with other small parties invites the accusation of 'sour grapes'.

Better instead to concentrate on attacking the traitor gang parties.
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[quote=mrabody;517844]Why would I support for a party that would either deport my wife and I or throw us into a concentration camp?

Why would I support a party who considers me immoral for having a mixed race child?

Why would I support a party that believes in state control of industry and tariff barriers?

Why would I support a party that is governed by the "leadership principle"?

Why would I support a party that is run by sum crank who goes everywhere with a bunch of big goons, looking like a complete loon in the process?



Mr Griffin isn't a 'crank'. I think you will find he was educated at Cambridge University - one of the most prestigious universities in the world. Where was Mr Farage educated?


Anyway, the BNP as a party of 'cranks' nearly always thrashes UKIP in electoral contests.
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