Originally Posted by Independence Now!:
Anyway, the BNP as a party of 'cranks' nearly always thrashes UKIP in electoral contests.

There are crank elections? :-):-)
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Mr Griffin isn't a 'crank'. I think you will find he was educated at Cambridge University - one of the most prestigious universities in the world. Where was Mr Farage educated?


Anyway, the BNP as a party of 'cranks' nearly always thrashes UKIP in electoral contests.[/quote]

Of all the things you could have pulled him up on you go for that?

Cambridge and Oxford have turned out any number of loonies and traitors over the years, including Philby and his mates, Howard Marks (the famous Ganja smuggler) and half the House Of Commons membership. History suggests that a graduate from either should be regarded with extreme suspicion. Look out for Keele, East Anglia, Sussex and Warwick as well, all set up with the explicit intention of training fanatical bureaucrats for running the Big State.
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Originally Posted by HM:
There are crank elections? :-):-)

The BNP invariably does beat UKIP whenever the two parties contest elections against each other. Henley-On-Thames was a case in point. If anything, UKIP should have beaten the BNP in Henley seeing as it is such a middle-class constituency the fact that you didn't should ring alarm bells.
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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee:
Being basically extreme Tories in all but name.

They don't attract the extreme right like the BNP but also don't attract the non-Toryesque eurosceptic either. They need to properly break from the Tories and attract as many euro-sceptics as possible.

That is UKIP's problem in a nutshell. Most of the population view them as the Thatcherite anti-EU branch office of the Conservative Party and not an independent party in their own right so they will only attract a tiny number of anti-EU Thatcherite Tories (ie to hell with the poor, unemployed ect and damm society etc) and not the far larger number of anti-EU voters who aren't extreme Thatcherites. Basically, UKIP's stance makes it a minority of a minority.
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