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Immigration>UK: Another Race Attack on Pastor
For_England 05:09 PM 31-05-2008

Originally Posted by Hartlepool:
No surprise for me in your statementFE as I'm sure you know.

The Snowclones of the bnp are not to be trusted at all it seems.

Yes, sadly I know. I used to think it drink, but you can't be drunk 24/7.
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The Guvnah 09:54 PM 05-06-2008

Originally Posted by Olympic Flame:
Stupid people get into fight over a ball and "Western voice" is preaching about a "race attack" since the perpetuator and victims are of different race, this tell us a great deal about our social attitude/opinion and the subsequent self-fulfilling prophecy of "racial conflict" in UK.

well actualy the clergyman in question states;

Originally Posted by :
“There is a certain racial and religious element to this,” adds.

“I have been and was taunted religiously — and that is a worrying aspect of it.

which sort of buggers your objection to it being classified as a racial attack on the grounds that, erm ...well ... it was! Or maybe the reverend is an evil lying 'racist hell bent on provoking these saintly minorities'?

But all too predictably...

Originally Posted by :
But although that attack was treated as a ‘faith hate’ crime, police consider the latest incident as simple assault.

Hang on a mo doesn't the law say that it IS a race crime if the victim OR ANY OTHER deems it so to be???? Surely then it is for a court to decide NOT for the police to reject on the basis of 'what they consider' to be the motive?
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Ken 04:46 PM 07-06-2008
It is important to know who is committing the crime in this country before we can do anything about it. The state keeping it quiet or people trying to cow others down by shouting "racist" only fosters evil behaviour against the innocent.

The killers of Martin are black. R

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...ES_228x409.jpg

Petrified schoolboy, 14, 'ran pleading for help before gang stabbed him
to death'
A terrified 14-year-old killed in a knife attack begged a bystander for
help as he fled from a mob of teenagers, the Old Bailey heard today.
Witness Tom Morgan told the court how stab victim Martin Dinnegan ran
past him pleading: 'Please help me.'
Mr Morgan said he saw the petrified boy hold his hands out in an attempt
to placate one of his pursuers but Martin was felled by a punch to the
head.
His attacker then pinned him to the ground and made repeated stabbing
motions towards his back, the court heard.
Mr Morgan and his girlfriend rang 999 and, in a tape recording played to
the jury, told the operator: 'There is a white guy and a massive group
of black guys who are kicking the **** out of him.'
Two men and two youths have pleaded not guilty to the murder of Martin
in Holloway in June last year.
Aftab Jafferjee QC, prosecuting, has told the jury how Martin was beaten
to the ground and stabbed 'in a case that moved from dirty looks to
death within an hour'.
Mr Morgan gave evidence today from behind screens to shield his face
from the dock and the public gallery.
He told how he and his girlfriend had been on their way to get a DVD
from a rental store when the boy he later recognised as Martin, wearing
a grey tracksuit and hood, ran towards them.
'He was very white faced, he was sprinting towards us and shouted: "Help
me, please help me,"' Mr Morgan said.
'He ran past us on the road to my left then a guy with a black tracksuit
went past on a large-framed BMX.
'He was cycling after the victim and was the distance of one parked car
away from us.
'He was very dark skinned although I was unable to see his face as he
was wearing a black hooded jumper with the hood pulled up.
'He dropped the bike when he got alongside the victim. Martin stood
still and put his hands up as if to placate the cyclist. Martin appeared
scared, very scared.
'The effect on the cyclist was almost nothing whatsoever and the next
thing was that a large haymaker came from his right fist. It was a right
hook and the blow connected with Martin's head or neck.'
At this point Mr Morgan's attention was distracted by another youth
sprinting up and shouting, the court heard.
'I looked back up the road and Martin was on the floor now,' Mr Morgan
said.
'It looked as if the first assailant was leaning on top of Martin who
was on his back and side facing away from us.
'The first assailant was leaning with all his weight on Martin's
shoulder and upper arm pressing him to the floor so that Martin seemed
to be pinned to the floor.
'Then I saw what seemed to be a stabbing motion rather than a punching
motion four or five times in very rapid succession.'
Mr Morgan explained that he had not seen a knife but, as he was
experienced in martial arts and disarming those armed with knives, he
could identify the difference between a punching and stabbing action,
which he demonstrated to the jury.
He then told how a crowd of up to 20 people aged 'between 10 and 20'
started 'laying into' Martin.
Mr Morgan rang 999 at 8.38pm, telling the operator that it looked as
though one of the attackers had a knife.
Martin, a pupil at St Aloysius College in Archway, died at the scene.
Rene John-Baptiste, 21, of Plaistow, Sean Clark, 19, of Holloway, and a
16-year-old from Finsbury Park and a 17-year-old from Holloway, who
cannot be named because of their ages, have all pleaded not guilty to
murder.

The case continues.

News | Mail Online
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