Originally Posted by For_England:
Well no, they are all just too busy pretending race is a social construct, and blaming nationalists for the inevitable failure of multiculturalism, because they live in a cocoon protected from the negative effects of it all., and can afford to indulge in their fantasies.

Im not one of those expert so I dont know. But I indeed read their works before. To suggest they are living in some sort of fantasy itself does not really answer the question. The pseudo-biological essentialists need to defend their own views at a professional level and so far they have done a poor job rather than grass root mass mobilisation.
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Originally Posted by UkipHM:
WWs I and II were pointless to nobody except Nazis. And I guess that explains a lot about you.

Vitrioloc hatred aimed at Aryans proud of their blood and history is nothing new.
It is this kind of behaviour which caused you to be marginalised in German society between 1933-1945.
You are causing it all to happen all over again.:-)
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Originally Posted by Aardvark:
Ethnic cleansing has not taken place in the UK since 1948. People have abandoned the less attractive and run down inner cities for more pleasant suburbs as properity has increased. The migrants on the bottom rung have moved into those districts in large numbers. There will be known isolated incidents of people being forced from their homes, but there is no systematic ethnic cleansing as there was of Jews before 1945 and Germans after 1945. You belittle the horrors of ethnic cleansing, some of which I have been privy to in the Balkans and elsewhere where I have seen refugee camps and burnt out villages and towns.

Millions of Brits have left voluntarily since 1948 to settle in the Commonwealth, USA and southern Europe. Nobody, except a few nutters, talks of Brits ethnically cleansing the Costa del Sol or wherever. Two of UKIP's original 12 MEPs have settled in the EU as have many supporters. How is it ethnic cleansing if 20 Bangla Deshi families choose to live together in one street and open a mini-market, but not ethnic cleansing when whole resorts with English pubs, English speaking golf clubs, English shops and English language newspapers are established in Spain?

The Maori and Aborigine tribal groups have been ethnically cleansed as have most American natives. Should they not be allowed to deport all the arrivals since 1948? Parts of Oz would be very empty.

What ethnic cleansing took place here prior to 1948? Some forms of cleansing are more dramatic - er, more compulsory - than others. After the war Stalin moved Poles back to Lower Silesia, into houses that were formerly occupied by Germans who had been forcibly decanted. That is one extreme. But people are always comparing Brits in Spain, living all in one place, refusing to learn Spanish & so on with poor non-English speaking immigrants here. As though there was actually any comparison. One group (the English in Spain) hugely contribute to the local economy whilst third world immigrants here are mostly a drain on it. One centre of Bangladeshi immigration is the east end of London - where there are certainly mini-marts & curry restaurants. There is also something in the region of 70% unemployment among young Bangladeshi males in the area. Drugs and crime form their main economic activities - beyond this they make life so miserable for local whites - as well as for themselves - that many people are dying to leave the district. Yet this 'inner city' area is very close to the City of London. It should be highly desirable. It's criminal that these people should be allowed to pollute what could be a very good area.
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Migration Watch UK: News
2.3 Million immigrants come to UK in 16 years

Posted: 02 Jun 2008 05:13 AM CDT

New Government figures have confirmed just how large has been the scale of immigration into the UK in recent years and show that that the vast majority who come to stay are from the third world.

An analysis of the latest immigration statistics from the Office of National Statistics by think-tank Migrationwatch shows that in the years 1991 – 2006 there was a net movement of some 2.3 million people to the UK - only 8% of which came from the new East European members of the EU.

‘As public concern has increased supporters of immigration have tried to give the impression that the majority come from the new EU member states and that, in time as their economies improve, they will return home – thus implying that public fears are groundless,’ said Sir Andrew Green, Migrationwatch chairman.

'But the Government’s own figures show that this is far from the case. They also give the lie to those who claim that there is no point in immigration controls which do not apply to EU citizens,' he said.

The figures show that over the years 1991 - 2006 there was a small group of countries to which more people emigrated from the UK than the number migrating from those countries to Britain. In total, the net movement of people to those countries was 422,000 of whom half went to Australia.

72,000 went to the 15 countries of the EU and smaller numbers left for the United States, New Zealand and Canada. (See bar chart)

All other countries listed, largely from the third world, were the source of more people moving to the UK than vice versa. In total, over the same period, these countries accounted for a net movement of 2.3 million people to the UK. Only 205,000, or 8%, came from the new East European members of the EU.

Said Sir Andrew: ‘The reality is that those who come and stay are almost entirely from countries subject to immigration control. What we need therefore is effective control. Unfortunately, the government’s much vaunted Points Based System is entirely open ended and simply fails to address the deep public concern on this issue.’
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Originally Posted by For_England:
Actually mixing between kindred European peoples is said to bring benefits - but mixing across ethnicity is damaging - you need to keep up with the scientific research before making such claims. Certainly we have nothing to gain by mixing the blood of our noble ancestors with the lower iq hordes who flock to our country precisely because we have made ours something that they can never make theirs. If they want the benefits of our intelligence and industry (which we are blessed with), they should invite us to govern their lands once more. They know who stands to gain from this experiment, and they know it isn't us.

In that case FE is it any more desirable that the genes and culture of races with higher IQ, such as the Jews and Chinese should be encouraged into our gene pool?

It is our place to make value judgments on the merits of races, cultures and nations or order their destinies based on our current beliefs. Down that road lies all sorts of undesirable quagmires. Leave the eugenics to Nazis like our friend the Bear.
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Originally Posted by Wowbanger TIP:
In that case FE is it any more desirable that the genes and culture of races with higher IQ, such as the Jews and Chinese should be encouraged into our gene pool?

It is our place to make value judgments on the merits of races, cultures and nations or order their destinies based on our current beliefs. Down that road lies all sorts of undesirable quagmires. Leave the eugenics to Nazis like our friend the Bear.

Well no because we are all unique. We don't exterminate certain species of parrot because they aren't as colourful as others - all I'm saying is that our cultural achievements are linked to our iq, whereas the stagnation of the third world is linked to theirs. I'm not calling for the extinction of anyone - Africans are a precious people too, and I wish western (largely American) corporations would stop trying to destroy their culture and enslave them.
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In fact why stop there? Surley we need to eject all the cheerleaders for this current multiculti mess too? I mean 'eject' in the most literal way: I envisage a giant catapault at Dover, fire the limpdick libertarians into the English Channel and let mother nature be their judge. :-)
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Originally Posted by Rye Spangle:
In fact why stop there? Surley we need to eject all the cheerleaders for this current multiculti mess too? I mean 'eject' in the most literal way: I envisage a giant catapault at Dover, fire the limpdick libertarians into the English Channel and let mother nature be their judge. :-)

Couldn't agree more!
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Originally Posted by The Bear:
Is Repatriation practicable?

Not in Britain today.

I think you could be missing the point of this thread.

In the Britain of tomorrow almost anything could be possible.
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Originally Posted by The Bear:
I do have a daughter, and a granddaughter, and if either did have a mixed race child then it would not cause me a moments concern other than the problems he or she might face while the last of the racist dinosaurs struggle in the tar pits on their way to inevitable extinction.

I remember over 50 years ago talking with my Grandmother about the events that had taken place in Nazi Germany and I made some comment about at least it would never happen again.

She went quiet and told me that it not only would but that I would probably see it start in my own lifetime and in England as well.

Reading some of the racist anti Semitic filth on here over the last few days that old woman’s words have come back to me.

Now with the social upheaval that will come shortly as the “credit Crunch” really bites and the probability of the equivalent to the Weimer Republic in Britain, a racing certainty if we renege from full membership in ever way with the EU, what will follow is all to clear.

Let’s just hope that people with the same foul sentiments as have been shown here are never allowed to get past the “howling at the moon” phase and are kept in check.

You've posted some pretty offensive stuff on this forum. But this is a new low even for you.

How dare you assert that the the British will "probably" replicate the filthy crimes of the holocaust.

What possible basis is there in British history or the present to make such a ridiculous statement?

The British people have bent over backwards to accommodate our ethnic minorities, we have watched our cities colonized by demographic superpowers and said almost nothing for fear of even the possibility of being merely called Nazis. Never before in human history has a population borne such insult nor shown such tolerance as the British have these last sixty years.

Moreover we are the decedents of a nation which lost half a million people in the fight against fascism. It was British people who in their millions risked their lives and in the hundreds of thousands gave them in order to liberate camps such as Belsen (Liberated by British troops April 15th 1945). Not even to mention the cost in terms of wealth and the ruination wrought on our cities. The people of Britain hazarded even the lives of their children in that war, in order to end the disgusting aberration which was Nazi Germany.

And you have the effrontery to accuse us of being capable of a holocaust?

Through every era of history the British have been at the forefront of the battles for liberty and human rights. We invented the very concepts. Certainly there have been episodes in that long history for which we should be ashamed, and we are. Even so no other major nation on Earth can boast as reletively blameless a history as the British and no other nation has been so ready to shed its gold and blood in the defense of other peoples and nations.

Given that this conversation took place half a century ago the conclusion of your own sojourn on this planet can not be far off and it would seem a racing certainty your vile granny could not have been more wrong in her sick slurs against the British people.

If you had a shred of decency in your entire body you would apologies immediately and unconditionally for this crass insult to the British people and its war dead, not only on behalf of yourself but also on behalf of your revolting grandmother.
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