Originally Posted by Smidgey:
Which is one of the many reasons why Islam is a terrible religion.

However, that doesn't change the fact that people should be free to wear what they wish.

In fact, I bet there are many Muslim women who have been so blinded by their dogmatic beliefs that they think it is their place to be subservient to the man and are happy to be treated like cattle.

Havnt you noticed most women tend to be subservient to men anyway?
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Originally Posted by kernow:
Western women who are stupid enough to convert to Islam which is basically against women's rights, deserve to become the second class citizens that they will be! The tragedy is, British women died trying to getting the vote for themselves and their Sisters!
Apart from physical strength women are equal to men in every department!

Strength is only one of womens failings.
They also have a lower average IQ and a lower ability to solve problems under stress.
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Originally Posted by kernow:
Western women who are stupid enough to convert to Islam which is basically against women's rights, deserve to become the second class citizens that they will be! The tragedy is, British women died trying to getting the vote for themselves and their Sisters!
Apart from physical strength women are equal to men in every department!

Only a small minority of upper class women wanted the vote and actively persuaded the cause of getting it.
The average woman wasn’t concerned.
Strangely as it may seem today most the suffragettes tended to be Right Wing Conservatives and Racial Nationalists which is quite pleasing.
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Originally Posted by kernow:
Western women who are stupid enough to convert to Islam which is basically against women's rights, deserve to become the second class citizens that they will be! The tragedy is, British women died trying to getting the vote for themselves and their Sisters!
Apart from physical strength women are equal to men in every department!

In the future most women and men will convert.
They desire discipline and order.
Europe will be an Islamic state within 50 years.
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Originally Posted by Purging The Liberal:
"I'M NOT RACIST! PLEASE BELIEVE ME!"

Jesus, are you people really so spineless that you can't say anything politically incorrect without adding that little mantra to the end?

I often think "im not a racist but" will be wrote on England's tomb stone.
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Originally Posted by British-Conservatism:
In the future most women and men will convert.
They desire discipline and order.
Europe will be an Islamic state within 50 years.

Can't see them giving up alcohol, though.
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It might not seem like it now but, we are not beaten yet. Not even by deceitful leaders who have betraying our people for 60 years with the exception of Churchill.
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Originally Posted by whiteandproud14:
I was in Birmingham earlier today and saw vast numbers of Islamic men and women,

According to the last census Birmingham is about 14.3% Muslim. I'm not sure if this equates to "vast numbers", but I should like to ask you, how exactly do you identify a Muslim?

Originally Posted by whiteandproud14:
the women were all wearing a burka, this automatically singles them out as different to the indigenous population.

And how do you identify a Muslim woman in the street if she is not wearing a burka?

Also, how about the women pictured below, are they self segregating? Should we be up in arms about them?


Or are the nuns above honouring the Virgin Mary, a woman whom you will only find depicted dressing as what would today be viewed as a "self segregating" Muslim. Example below:

Originally Posted by whiteandproud14:
Why claim you wish to assimilate and then wear such garments? It is self-segregation in my opinion.

I see.

And what of the Sikhs and their beards and turbans?


And what of Jewish dress sense?


Why single out Muslims if you have a problem with people "self segregating" through the use of clothing? What exactly is the dress code of the "indigenous" population of the UK? And how many people on this forum would conform to it?

Originally Posted by whiteandproud14:
They shout and scream about people victimising them, yet many of them refuse to wear British clothes and speak in English, why?

Please quantify "many". Perhaps it is easier for you to remain vague though, heaven forbid that we bring any objectivity to this.

I should like to draw your attention to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It states that:

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Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

In effect, you, and anyone agrees with you, represent a point of view that, taken to it's logical conclusion, would deny a person their human rights in terms of freedom of religion.

Which other human rights do you think we can safely dispose of?
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Originally Posted by brian pearson:
I wonder how many Muslim women really want to wear the veil, if indeed they were free to wear whatever they wanted.

I suspect Muslim men choose what Muslim women wear.

:-):-):-):-):-):-):-)

Ahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa. I can only surmise from this statement that you are not married. Try telling a woman - any woman - what to wear and see what happens.

There is only one man in the world who has the authority to advise women what to wear.

His name is Gok Wan. You can watch him on Channel 4, but I tend to leave the room and watch a repeat of Top Gear on Dave.
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Originally Posted by brian pearson:
I wonder how many Muslim women really want to wear the veil, if indeed they were free to wear whatever they wanted.

Explain the following please:

Benazir Buutto was elected leader of a Muslim state (did someone mention patriarchy?), had she not been assisinated, there is no doubt she would have been elected again. Where is her burka?


Hammasa Kohistani, a Muslim, won Miss England in 2005 and competed in the Miss World contest for England. Where is her burka?


Laleh Seddigh, "Irans foremost racing driver", competes racing cars against men in Iran... Where is her burka? Check her website for more pictures (hint, no burkas to be found there).


Saira Khan, (of The Apprentice fame), where is her burka?


Yasmin Alibhai-Brown. On the 10th of September, 2001, the day before the Al-Queda attacks in the US, she wrote a column calling for international action against the Taliban. Where is her burka?


The head of the Muslim Council of Britain is quoted as saying this:

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You shouldn't be revealing your body so much that it can be tempting to other people. I hope my daughter wouldn't wear a bikini but I also hope she wouldn't wear a burka.

Dr Bari: Government stoking Muslim tension - Telegraph


The head of the MCB doesn't want his daughter to wear a burka. Jeepers. I guess that didn't make the headlines, did it?
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