Self-segregation by Muslim people

Originally Posted by whiteandproud14:
I was in Birmingham earlier today and saw vast numbers of Islamic men and women, the women were all wearing a burka, this automatically singles them out as different to the indigenous population. Why claim you wish to assimilate and then wear such garments? It is self-segregation in my opinion.

They shout and scream about people victimising them, yet many of them refuse to wear British clothes and speak in English, why?

And how does this comment relate to immigration anyway?

Do you not think that Muslims can be born in Britain?

Sure. You can stop Muslims entering the country, but that wouldn't stop them from being born here.

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Originally Posted by Northumbrian:
Can't see them giving up alcohol, though.

Most men can make most women do anything,

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Originally Posted by david H:
It might not seem like it now but, we are not beaten yet. Not even by deceitful leaders who have betraying our people for 60 years with the exception of Churchill.

What we have now is appeasment of the Blacks and Muslims.
To paraphrase Churchill
"We give them more and more in the hope they will eat us last".

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Originally Posted by whypatcondellisntfun:
According to the last census Birmingham is about 14.3% Muslim. I'm not sure if this equates to "vast numbers", but I should like to ask you, how exactly do you identify a Muslim?

And how do you identify a Muslim woman in the street if she is not wearing a burka?

Also, how about the women pictured below, are they self segregating? Should we be up in arms about them?

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Or are the nuns above honouring the Virgin Mary, a woman whom you will only find depicted dressing as what would today be viewed as a "self segregating" Muslim. Example below:

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I see.

And what of the Sikhs and their beards and turbans?

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And what of Jewish dress sense?

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Why single out Muslims if you have a problem with people "self segregating" through the use of clothing? What exactly is the dress code of the "indigenous" population of the UK? And how many people on this forum would conform to it?

Please quantify "many". Perhaps it is easier for you to remain vague though, heaven forbid that we bring any objectivity to this.

I should like to draw your attention to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It states that:

In effect, you, and anyone agrees with you, represent a point of view that, taken to it's logical conclusion, would deny a person their human rights in terms of freedom of religion.

Which other human rights do you think we can safely dispose of?

Self segragation is the natural instinct of man.

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Originally Posted by whypatcondellisntfun:
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Ahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa. I can only surmise from this statement that you are not married. Try telling a woman - any woman - what to wear and see what happens.

There is only one man in the world who has the authority to advise women what to wear.

His name is Gok Wan. You can watch him on Channel 4, but I tend to leave the room and watch a repeat of Top Gear on Dave.

You just show the weakness of the modern British White Male.

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Originally Posted by British-Conservatism:
You just show the weakness of the modern British White Male.

Are you assuming that I'm White?

I knew a man who loved to assert his authority over women, especially after a few drinks. You might call him a Strong Old School Male. It was a great life for him for a while in his youth, but things changed at some point and now he lives alone and doesn't see very much of his children or grandchildren.

You''ll understand from this story that there is not such a fine line between a "strong" wife beating absent father and "weak" caring and loving one who wants to be there for his children, and for them to be there for him.

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Originally Posted by whypatcondellisntfun:
Are you assuming that I'm White?

I knew a man who loved to assert his authority over women, especially after a few drinks. You might call him a Strong Old School Male. It was a great life for him for a while in his youth, but things changed at some point and now he lives alone and doesn't see very much of his children or grandchildren.

You''ll understand from this story that there is not such a fine line between a "strong" wife beating absent father and "weak" caring and loving one who wants to be there for his children, and for them to be there for him.

Just because you are a weak man who cant control his woman dosnt mean everyman who can is a wife beating absent father.

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Originally Posted by British-Conservatism:
Just because you are a weak man who cant control his woman dosnt mean everyman who can is a wife beating absent father.

It�s fascinating how different people see things in different ways.

I would hate to control my wife, in fact if I ever thought that I was I would be utterly ashamed of myself.

Surely the nature of a relationship between two people is one of a loving sharing, mutual supporting, mutual respecting partnership in every way? Where one party has strengths these compliment where the other may not and vice versa?

That�s not to say that we don�t compromise on things from time to time and one party go with the flow, in fact to do so is all part of a good partnership, but to control, let alone want to control?

Bizarre.

Abuse doesn�t just come down to physical violence. Abuse at a mental level, including domination, can be equal or even worse than physical abuse.

Those who express pride in "controlling their women" would do well to take note of that.

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Originally Posted by The Bear:
It�s fascinating how different people see things in different ways.

I would hate to control my wife, in fact if I ever thought that I was I would be utterly ashamed of myself.

Surely the nature of a relationship between two people is one of a loving sharing, mutual supporting, mutual respecting partnership in every way? Where one party has strengths these compliment where the other may not and vice versa?

That�s not to say that we don�t compromise on things from time to time and one party go with the flow, in fact to do so is all part of a good partnership, but to control, let alone want to control?

Bizarre.

Abuse doesn�t just come down to physical violence. Abuse at a mental level, including domination, can be equal or even worse than physical abuse.

Those who express pride in "controlling their women" would do well to take note of that.

:-) so you tells you what to do then.

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