Originally Posted by youcanhandlethetruth:
How can you attempt to dismantle a government without evidence of criminality ? It's hard enough with any evidence.

But the arrest and imprisonment of a few politicians will do nother to alter the vast behemoth of the state. It may change the secret service and such for a decade or so, but that is pretty much it.

On the other hand, the belief that it was a terrorist attack allows us a clear example of blowback and a clear case against the current foreign policy.
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Originally Posted by mkpdavies:
You should always look to learn from history, so that you have the right foundations for the future.

Yes I agree.
If history teaches us anything it is never to trust government to allow them to get so powerful they act on our behalf for our own good.
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Originally Posted by Smidgey:
But the arrest and imprisonment of a few politicians will do nother to alter the vast behemoth of the state. It may change the secret service and such for a decade or so, but that is pretty much it.

On the other hand, the belief that it was a terrorist attack allows us a clear example of blowback and a clear case against the current foreign policy.

Yes it was a terrorist attack but not the terrorists that most people believe.

So what exactly are you saying Smidgey ?

We target the people higher up than the politicians ? If so I agree.

It's the international central bankers and a few powerful families like David Rockefeller that are ultimately responsible.
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Fire Did Not Collapse WTC (Christopher Bollyn)
Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:47 pm (PST)
My father, who has been an architect for more than sixty years, sent me this article by Christopher Bollyn.

Christopher Bollyn
Fire Did Not Collapse WTC

"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
- Thomas Jefferson

ENSLAVED BY LIES

By Christopher Bollyn
8 January 2008

The United States has become a nation enslaved by lies. The fundamental deception of our time is clearly the pack of lies about what happened on 9-11. The so-called "War on Terror," the USA PATRIOT ACT, and the subsequent illegal invasions and occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq all ride on the back of this immense lie.
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Originally Posted by Silvbird:
Fire Did Not Collapse WTC (Christopher Bollyn)
Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:47 pm (PST)
My father, who has been an architect for more than sixty years, sent me this article by Christopher Bollyn.

Christopher Bollyn
Fire Did Not Collapse WTC

"I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man."
- Thomas Jefferson

ENSLAVED BY LIES

By Christopher Bollyn
8 January 2008

The United States has become a nation enslaved by lies. The fundamental deception of our time is clearly the pack of lies about what happened on 9-11. The so-called "War on Terror," the USA PATRIOT ACT, and the subsequent illegal invasions and occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq all ride on the back of this immense lie.

I couldn't have put it better Silvbird........

Unfortunately so have we in the UK and Europe.

But at least millions of people in the U.S have woken up through the power of the internet and alternative media.

When will we ?!
Hopefully before we're so brainwashed we don't know who to blame.......
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Originally Posted by Smidgey:
But the arrest and imprisonment of a few politicians will do nother to alter the vast behemoth of the state. It may change the secret service and such for a decade or so, but that is pretty much it.

On the other hand, the belief that it was a terrorist attack allows us a clear example of blowback and a clear case against the current foreign policy.

No. It will wake the world up. People won't be so quick to except what the telly tells them. How can you say what does it matter whether the government did it or not?

I just can't understand how any one can hold such a view.
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I think Smidgey means that if politicians and secret service are ultimately charged and imprisoned, the puppet masters will put in a new lot of politicians and policy will remain the same.

Even if he is right, that gives 10 years for honourable people to try to get into these positions of power and change the system from within.

And these politicians are still guilty by association, so it has to be a good thing - no doubt about it.
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Hmmm, something about building not up to spec and building insurance...
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Originally Posted by youcanhandlethetruth:
Principal Electrical Engineer for WTC: “Fuel and Planes Alone Did NOT Bring the Towers Down”

Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Yes they did, the failure process is well understood.

Why do you keep spreading garbage about what took place?
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Infowars, again, what a surprise...
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