Brown goes to Israel

PM's Israel speech will attack Iran - AOL News

Gordon is spouting off in Israel now. I found the 200+ comments under the article interesting. There is certainly a very evident amount of rage being felt towards him by the people of this country. How can we afford another war when we can't even afford coastal protection in Norfolk but can somehow cough up Ł30million for the Palestinians?

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Oh my god - reading this article talking about Brown......

"And he will go on to insist that Britain and Israel stand together in the "fight for liberty". :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Coming from the scumbag who cares so much about liberty that he wants to take it all away at home, this should tell you all you need to know that this coming war is an another illegitimate and sick lie.

Where did you get that figure about Ł30million for the Palestinians ?

Since Britain/US/NWO support Israel I find that very difficult to believe.

Anyway if you think Ł30 million is a lot, how much do you think we're spending on Iraq, the EU and the surveillance state ?

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ychtt> It is all over various news sites on the web, here is an example:

Brown pledges Palestinian aid on Mid East tour - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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Brown pledges Palestinian aid on Mid East tour
Posted Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:19pm AEST
Updated Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:04am AEST

Mr Abbas meets with Mr Brown (L). (Reuters: Muhammed Muheisen)

Video: Brown urges Palestinian, Israeli peace deal (ABC News) British Prime Minister Gordon Brown has pledged further economic aid to the Palestinians on a visit to the region aimed at bolstering US-backed Middle East peace talks.

"We have pledged $500 million for economic development in Palestine over three years to 2011," Mr Brown said after meeting Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in the Israeli-occupied West Bank town of Bethlehem.

"I can announce today a further commitment of $60 million, 30 million of which we will give as direct budgetary support, bringing our total support to the Palestinian Authority this year to $175 million," he said.

In keeping with his "economic roadmap" to peace, Mr Brown pledged support for a new mortgage finance authority which he said would help to finance some 30,000 new Palestinian homes and generate up to 50,000 new jobs.

Mr Brown - who spent 10 years as finance minister under Tony Blair, whom he succeeded as Prime Minister in June 2007 - also said that a recent international investment conference in Bethlehem had been a success and that he and Abbas had agreed that London would host a similar follow-up event later this year.

"Palestine is open for business," Mr Brown said.

Earlier Brown visited Israeli President Shimon Peres in Jerusalem and was to return to the city later on Sunday for talks with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.

He has also been invited to address the Israeli parliament on Monday - the first time a British premier will make a speech to the Knesset.

Mr Brown will also meet Israeli ministers and opposition figures during his trip, which follows a surprise visit on Saturday to Baghdad and the southern Iraqi city of Basra.

Last September, Mr Brown set out an "economic roadmap" for peace in the Middle East, in which he said it was his "strong personal belief" that kick-starting growth in the West Bank and Gaza Strip was crucial to establishing peace.

The report identified five building blocks: reducing public expenditure, a more stable relationship between the Palestinian and Israeli economies, a balance between short-term security and movement and access, diversification of trade links and an enhanced investment climate.

Mr Abbas thanked Brown for his support as he called on Israel to ease closures and halt the growth of Jewish settlements in the West Bank.

"What is required for these investments is to assure the freedom of movement of goods and of people in order to overcome obstacles in economic development," Mr Abbas said at the joint news conference.

Mr Brown echoed Abbas's call for a freeze on settlements, saying their expansion "has made peace harder to achieve."

Mr Brown's predecessor Blair is now the Middle East Quartet's envoy, representing the European Union, Russia, the United Nations and the United States in efforts to advance Israeli-Palestinian peace talks.

The two - whose relationship soured over the years - will not meet during the visit, but Mr Brown praised Mr Blair's work in promoting Palestinian economic development.

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Thanks for posting EA.

Well reading between the lines (in fact I don't need to too much) and it seems it is more about economic "investment" (as Abbas states) than Middle East peace talks though interesting to read:

"Last September, Mr Brown set out an "economic roadmap" for peace in the Middle East, in which he said it was his "strong personal belief" that kick-starting growth in the West Bank and Gaza Strip was crucial to establishing peace."

Why is economics so important to peace ?

Why indeed.... :-)

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The kind of growth that Gordon Brown is reportedly trying to stimulate in Gaza and the West Bank is the kind of growth that he should be trying to stimulate here in Britain instead.
You can bet your life that he isn't trying to stimulate it with socialism - that wouldn't be resuscitation, it would be euthanasia.
He'll probably be encouraging small businesses - small farms, small manufacturing businesses, to develop. Without interference by the state. Without 25% of the population lounging around in the public sector. Without an army of welfare scroungers.
In other words, he won't be trying to build Britain's version of Jerusalem out there (which was pretty witty of me, I thought).

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Originally Posted by Ea of Dune:
PM's Israel speech will attack Iran - AOL News

Gordon is spouting off in Israel now. I found the 200+ comments under the article interesting. There is certainly a very evident amount of rage being felt towards him by the people of this country. How can we afford another war when we can't even afford coastal protection in Norfolk but can somehow cough up Ł30million for the Palestinians?

Ea of dune

I thought it was government policy that they won't attempt to protect the UK's eroding coastline with defences. I could be wrong.

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Yes, I get that impression too. It's a difficult decision, and an interesting argument, whether we should divert human resources to fighting something - flooding - which is a natural condition.
Whether it's natural due to natural forces or has become natural due to mans' interference - global warming, is another argument.

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Well to be far seeing as we have alot of responsibility for what has happened to the poor Palestinians, who were once over 90% of the population of what is now Israel, we do rather owe them.

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Don't think our government would give anything away if they weren't getting something back in return BonnieDundee.

As the article and quotes suggest it seems to be about money - that's my guess anyway.

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Bonnie Dundee, don't fret too much over Britain's role in the Palestinian/Jewish situation in 1947. Britain tried to stop the Jews from entering Palestine (as it was then), world opinion and the recent (then) treatment of jews, as a whole, caused the British to climb down, the rest, as they say, is history.

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