Georgia attack Russia

Some more news information.......

Mass Murder in S. Ossetia: “Israelis should be proud of themselves”

"Israel’s Ynetnews is not ashamed of the role Israel plays in arming and training Georgia’s military. In fact, according to Arie Egozi, Israel is involved with Georgia specifically to gear its military up for confrontation with Russia:

For past seven years, Israeli companies have been helping Georgian army to prepare for war against Russia through arms deals, training of infantry units and security advice."

American Mercenary Captured By Russians

Kommersant: U.S. Military Instructors Command Hirelings in Georgia

U.S. Arms Cache Found in Kyrgyzstan - Kommersant Moscow

Neocons Call For U.S. To Launch War With Russia

So much for "peace"..........

Petraeus: US is flying Georgian troops into battle zone - Times Online

Former Georgian Foreign Minister: Many Americans in Georgia Training Military

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A selection of comments from that Times article:

We Europeans are great. One of us (Ancient/Independent/Democratic) is being annexed by Russia and we some how manage to put all our energies into blaming America, as that country burns.

Are we just trying to disguise our cowardliness and uselessness.

Richard, Ireland,

Michal in Northampton; Even Russia recognises the sovereignty of Georgia, including South Ossetia. Autonomy is not independence., South Ossetia is NOT a country and is recognised by no-one as being such. This is an invasion of a sovereign nation, Russian imperialism in the 21st Century.Simon, Stockport,

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I don't even understand the first point, let alone have any opinion on it.

The second one just shows how misled the masses can be by our media - to believe it was instigated by Russia.

That's the best you can do is it Westcountyman ?

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I thought the first comment was apt for you YCHTT, especially this:

"we some how manage to put all our energies into blaming America, as that country [Georgia] burns. "

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Originally Posted by Westcountryman:
I thought the first comment was apt for you YCHTT, especially this:

"we some how manage to put all our energies into blaming America, as that country [Georgia] burns. "

I blame the puppet U.S government, not America or it's people.

But not just the U.S government - the puppet governments of Georgia and Western Europe too.
But mainly the globalists and the New World Order orchestrating the whole thing and uses the dumb masses like pawns to be taken in a game of chess.

What will it take for people to switch off their propaganda box and get informed ? :-)

Well, when things get unbelievably tough (and I hope I'm wrong), please remember that I warned you about the globalists, whatever your television tells you whose fault it is.

And just remember Bush, NATO & co put in the military bases and supported their client state to spark it all off ok ?

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Col. Sam Gardiner: “If U.S. Attacks Russia, Russia will Use Nuclear Weapons”

YouTube - THE NUCLEAR THREAT. on Democracy Now...

So back off right now with your threats and pre-emptive attacks Cheney........

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YCHTT,

My friend is in Gurjaani, where he lives. I'm not giving any more information to a person who has not posted his own name and contact details. Give your name and e-mail address and I'll pass it on to my friend who can contact you.

You have never met a polyglot. They pick up some colloquialisms and not others. The person works with me, on secondment, in foreign territories for an international organisation - OSCE/ODIHR. He uses the American spelling as so many foreigners do -not all English courses are taught by the English.

The working language of all OSCE missions is English. My friend was a locally recruited administrator while we were in Georgia and spoke colloquial international English all the time. International English is modified as you can have a group of non-native English speakers from several countries communicating with each other with no native speakers present. I've frequently been the only native speaker and have to speak more clearly and with a smaller vocabulary in order to ensure everyone understands. If I use unfamiliar words then I am asked to clarify. A Macedonian friend hadn't heard about people being on rungs of the ladder, even though they have a similar expression; the word 'rung' is rarely taught outside of specialist classes. I had to explain 'eulogise', 'decorum' and 'cocksure' to my Armenian interpreter, even though he did his masters in Belfast. The fact that someone knows 'for the time being' means he has heard someone use it and, having established its utility in colloquial speech, chooses to use it himself.

The expression 'in war' is common in many languages that do not have a locative case. Georgian, as with Russian, doesn't have 'a' and 'the' and has many prepositions that are incorporated by changing word endings. It is easy to confuse the small words when using one of several languages.

I trimmed the final sentences from the message as they are personal and would identify the writer and where he will be working in the near future.

YCHTT, The military bases in Georgia were built by the Soviets as Georgia bordered NATO member Turkey during the Cold War. They might have been updated with western compatible kit since then, but no new bases have been built. The attacks on Dedoplistskaro might be on the runway of the former Soviet fighter base near there as, although the accommodation is derelict, the runway and HASs might be usable in emergency.

Nobody seems to be alert to the fact the Gori was Stalin's birthplace.

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Fair enough Aardvark.
I hope you don't mind me expressing my concerns about your source, just doing my duty to check sources because there are fake posters on this forum.

I feel very much for your friend I really do, but I still think he should accept Georgia were at fault to launch the offensive to begin with.

Obviously this is not likely to be on his list of priorities.

But I still say the Georgian president(in conjunction with the US) is primarily to blame for the actions which have affected the Georgian people, but obviously your friend feels hard feelings towards the response of Russian military.

Maybe the response was "disproportionate" (as Bush said), maybe not but it is clear the Georgian and Russian people have both suffered greatly.

I did notice the ITN news this afternoon say that at a rally in the capital, the Georgian president was telling Georgians how important it was to be united with America, and according to the report, many Georgians were (rightly in my opinion) skeptical about an arrangement which has already resulted in their suffering.

Let's just hope with the ceasefire, this is an end to the matter and people can re-build their lives without irresponsible heads of state bringing pain to the people they represent.

Regards to your friend.

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Brown issues coded threat to Putin on G8 status - Scotsman.com News

More hippocrisy from our noble and righteous western leaders on show here.......

"David Cameron, the Tory leader, went further, branding Russia a "dangerous" and "massive" bully.

"The only language that bullies understand is when someone stands up to them," Mr Cameron said.

I thought that was what Russia were doing to Georgia !? :-)

Also Bush's talk of Georgia being a "sovereign nation"(not in the article but on the TV recently) is something he should bear in mind before the U.S attacks Iran in a similar way to Iraq (where they secured the oil and build permanent bases)

In my opinion the most sensible comment was this one:

Angus Robertson, the SNP's Westminster leader, said the conflict was a "disaster". He went on: "Russia is trying to send the strongest signal it can that it will not countenance further 'meddling', as it sees it, in its affairs.

"This is one of the only growing oil markets in the world and it is such a dangerous cocktail mix of politics, economics and strategic interests that, frankly, the health and wellbeing of the civilians of South Ossetia is nothing to do with it."

Well I'm sure the Russians weren't too happy about the thousands of it's own people killed but I mostly agree with him on the rest of it.

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