Originally Posted by Aardvark:
Nearly 20% of the population of Latvia, and a similar percentage in Estonia, do not have full citizenship rights. They, or their forebears, arrived as a result of the wholly illegal Molatov-Ribbentrop Pact and are seen as illegal invaders. In Latvia, where I was part of the 2006 election mission, the issue was high on the agenda as these people do not have a vote. The Russians in Lithuania are equal citizens.

To become a full citizen a Russian in Latvia, born and living there since the 1940 invasion, has to take a Latvian language exam (many never bothered to learn Latvian during the Soviet Era), pass a history test and sign a declaration that the 1940 annexation was unlawful. Many refuse and lose civic rights.

Russia might see this as affecting the dignity of these people, who look to Russia for protection, and might intervene on any pretext.

Latvia and Estonia are full members of NATO and the EU. An invasion of either means we enter a state of war with Russia.

I wonder what the Americans would have had to say had Canada applied to join the Warsaw Pact?

The idea that Georgia, part of Greater Russia and an integral part of the Russian Empire for centuries should be allowed to join NATO is utterly absurd. Putin is absolutely right in dealing with the Georgian regime of gangsters and grafters.

I'm delighted that the USA and its NATO lapdogs have been shown up as the impotent bullies they are. Roll on the termination of the appalling presidency of Monkey-boy Bush and his hangers-on.
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Originally Posted by Wowbanger TIP:
Oh no, where would we go for cheap whores and beer on the Stag Night then?

The Russians ran these German colonies for fifty years and it didn't cause me any problems what so ever. Now everywhere I go I find these Baltic scabs undermining the wages of British workers and our motorways full of their trucks while the EU siphons our cash off to pay for their reconstruction. Jesus Christ the average indigenous Briton was much better off with these people as enemies than allies. Screw them all, bring back the Wall. In fact the worst mistake Britain ever made was D-day. We should have let the Russians have the whole damned lot, the Europeans deserve to be run from the Kremlin.

That's true. Though I was chatting up a very nice Latvian barmaid on the IOW car ferry last week :-)

There's been a lot of **** talked about freedom over the years but the only freedoms these people now have is to starve in the gutter or screw everybody else.

They were better off under Soviet rule.
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Originally Posted by TannyD:
So America don't want to start the big boom with Russia, then what situation are they "engineering" then?

Difficult to say but it is was undoubtedly an unprovoked attack seeking to test Russian resolve. Fortunately it looks like it may have backfired on the Americans(for now at least)

Originally Posted by TannyD:
I assume this might has something to do with Bush carrying on where his Father left off? I have just started to watch Endgame which is currently paused. *takes a breath*

Like all politicians Bush is only a puppet who runs very little.

If you want to know how wars start and who benefits you should watch "terrorstorm" which explains "false flag" operations that have triggered all the main wars.

Originally Posted by TannyD:
Right, so the NWO Bilderberger lizards have a smug assumption that the people will never wake up, and if they really believe that why is it such an issue that population remains below 500 million?

Not sure I understand your logic - do you mean why keep people in the dark if you're going to launch another world war ? If that's what you mean surely it's fairly clear why...

Huh? Was that the fuzzy image of Brown in that newspaper? Who was that?

Originally Posted by TannyD:
Does the "Black Hand" have a particular symbol, there seems to be quite a few graffettied around the town centre where I live or is that Black power symbol but does that symbol have a A symbol above the black hand?

The illuminati symbol is the all seeing eye, that some american corporations(Aol, time warner ?) use in their logo's. But you'll find it for sure on the American $1 note.

Illuminati symbolizm can also be found on everyday products - look at any barcode and the 3 un-numbered lines all have the same number - I wonder if you can check what number that is........

Never heard of the "Black Hand"......

Originally Posted by TannyD:
Well, I managed to watch about 20 minutes of the over 2 hour long video. :-)

Well done. You're probably better off watching terrorstorm first though.

Originally Posted by TannyD:
The UN are with the bad guys then? But on the quiet...

It's all about keeping the world safe Tanny - y'know like when we invaded Iraq ? Except that a few UN nations like France opposed it - hence Sarkosy's entrance now.

Originally Posted by TannyD:
oh and is there something wrong with the people who work in the Jobcentre, she seems surprised almost shock when I decided to live off the money I had earned to fund myself to get another job and not sign back on and get back into the "system" like two seconds after I was let go. That strikes me as a bit odd that's all...:/

What are you referring to ?

Originally Posted by TannyD:
Wow, I didn't know that Nazism affected the Scandinavian areas. :-)

Sure.
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About the Jobcentre? It's probably nothing but I strikes me as a bit weird all this stuff in the media about "getting the lazy dole scrum off benefits" when staff at the Jobcentres display behaviour which welcomes and encourages you to sign on, it's what my advisor said to me over me deciding not to sign on straight away after I was let go, her surprise caught me by surprise. If that is the general attitude of "free money for those who couldn't be bothered to stretch their money and go all out to get another job", well it just seems to be a contradiction.

Watching the video, It only loaded up about 23 minutes and after that I couldn't watch any more.

I have another question about American politics, is it just one or is it all the candidates who are being controlled by the "shadow people"?

Have you read The Occult Roots Of Nazism?

So the number on the barcode is hidden?
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Originally Posted by TannyD:
About the Jobcentre? It's probably nothing but I strikes me as a bit weird all this stuff in the media about "getting the lazy dole scrum off benefits" when staff at the Jobcentres display behaviour which welcomes and encourages you to sign on, it's what my advisor said to me over me deciding not to sign on straight away after I was let go, her surprise caught me by surprise. If that is the general attitude of "free money for those who couldn't be bothered to stretch their money and go all out to get another job", well it just seems to be a contradiction.

Watching the video, It only loaded up about 23 minutes and after that I couldn't watch any more.

I have another question about American politics, is it just one or is it all the candidates who are being controlled by the "shadow people"?

Have you read The Occult Roots Of Nazism?

So the number on the barcode is hidden?

All this stuff in the media about "getting the lazy dole scrum off benefits" is the trick they use to shift responsibility for the budget(chuckle :-)) away from the government who spend fortunes on unnecessary wars and bureacracy and back onto the common person who already is overburdened and taxed to the hilt. Ok maybe not the unemployed so much but you know what I mean - even the unemployed get taxed by the government every time they drink, smoke, buy clothes etc etc.
Anyway it's a form of simplistic mind control to takes peoples minds off the fundamental issues about where government money really goes in this supposedly democratic system.

That's interesting about the jobcentre though.

To be honest I'm not totally suprised - I suspect they want people in the system (though I'm not totally sure why).

However when you consider so many immigrants are allowed into the country to claim benefits etc it makes you wonder what the hell is going on. For once I don't have an answer ! :-) :-)

If I didn't know better(and I don't) I'd say they're trying to destroy the economy on purpose. Maybe they are ? God knows.

That might sound totally crazy but if you study America's economy you see there a lot of economic experts there who believe the dollar is being destroyed by design.
Mark my words the US is heading for an economic disaster sooner or later that could happen any day. I hope we're not going the same way but we could be....

Having said that it could just be that the woman at the jobcentre was just trying to be nice and help(after all she's not necessary part of any evil system :-))

You ask "is it just one or is it all the candidates who are being controlled by the "shadow people"?

The vast majority of republicans and democats, and certainly those in the senate are controlled by big business.

You do get true Republicans like Ron Paul or a true Democrat like Denis Kucinich (also Jesse Ventura, Cynthia McKinney) but these are the exception to the rule.

Like in Britain, the perfect system of control is to have a supposedly democratic system where you have 2 or 3 parties who have essentially the same agenda. i.e. pro-war, pro big-business, pro big brother surveillance state etc etc so it does not matter (too much) who really wins power.
Now one may argue that other smaller parties are not excluded from the political process but there are many other factors that mean they never have a chance of power.

They are:
--- the media(not giving them or their issues any positive exposure)
--- lack of funding and obstacles to the establishment of such parties (now we are told the taxpayer must fund the main political parties ! :-))
--- voterigging (In America there is clear evidence the Ron Paul Revolution was cheated by electronic voting machines. Also consider Bush's amazing win in Florida at the last election)

Anyway, basically yes. :-)

I haven't read The Occult Roots Of Nazism - is it good ?
I know that Grandaddy Bush was in league with the Nazi's and brought a lot of Nazi scientists back to the U.S after WWII.

Occult symbolism isn't something that I've studied in depth.

Any barcode has three identical (groups of) lines.
If you take any barcode which has the number 6 in it, you will see that the barcode symbol for the number 6 is exactly the same as each of the unnumbered (groups of) lines.

So that spells 666.

Have a look and you'll see what I mean hopefully.

Actually maybe I should start a new thread on that subject and see what people say about it - should be interesting to see how they explain that one :-)

Ok time for me to shut up(for now).......
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Originally Posted by youcanhandlethetruth:
All this stuff in the media about "getting the lazy dole scrum off benefits" is the trick they use to shift responsibility for the budget(chuckle :-)) away from the government who spend fortunes on unnecessary wars and bureacracy and back onto the common person who already is overburdened and taxed to the hilt. Ok maybe not the unemployed so much but you know what I mean - even the unemployed get taxed by the government every time they drink, smoke, buy clothes etc etc.
Anyway it's a form of simplistic mind control to takes peoples minds off the fundamental issues about where government money really goes in this supposedly democratic system.

That's interesting about the jobcentre though.

To be honest I'm not totally suprised - I suspect they want people in the system (though I'm not totally sure why).

However when you consider so many immigrants are allowed into the country to claim benefits etc it makes you wonder what the hell is going on. For once I don't have an answer ! :-) :-)

If I didn't know better(and I don't) I'd say they're trying to destroy the economy on purpose. Maybe they are ? God knows.

That might sound totally crazy but if you study America's economy you see there a lot of economic experts there who believe the dollar is being destroyed by design.
Mark my words the US is heading for an economic disaster sooner or later that could happen any day. I hope we're not going the same way but we could be....

Having said that it could just be that the woman at the jobcentre was just trying to be nice and help(after all she's not necessary part of any evil system :-))

You ask "is it just one or is it all the candidates who are being controlled by the "shadow people"?

The vast majority of republicans and democats, and certainly those in the senate are controlled by big business.

You do get true Republicans like Ron Paul or a true Democrat like Denis Kucinich (also Jesse Ventura, Cynthia McKinney) but these are the exception to the rule.

Like in Britain, the perfect system of control is to have a supposedly democratic system where you have 2 or 3 parties who have essentially the same agenda. i.e. pro-war, pro big-business, pro big brother surveillance state etc etc so it does not matter (too much) who really wins power.
Now one may argue that other smaller parties are not excluded from the political process but there are many other factors that mean they never have a chance of power.

They are:
--- the media(not giving them or their issues any positive exposure)
--- lack of funding and obstacles to the establishment of such parties (now we are told the taxpayer must fund the main political parties ! :-))
--- voterigging (In America there is clear evidence the Ron Paul Revolution was cheated by electronic voting machines. Also consider Bush's amazing win in Florida at the last election)

Anyway, basically yes. :-)

I haven't read The Occult Roots Of Nazism - is it good ?
I know that Grandaddy Bush was in league with the Nazi's and brought a lot of Nazi scientists back to the U.S after WWII.

Occult symbolism isn't something that I've studied in depth.

Any barcode has three identical (groups of) lines.
If you take any barcode which has the number 6 in it, you will see that the barcode symbol for the number 6 is exactly the same as each of the unnumbered (groups of) lines.

So that spells 666.

Have a look and you'll see what I mean hopefully.

Actually maybe I should start a new thread on that subject and see what people say about it - should be interesting to see how they explain that one :-)

Ok time for me to shut up(for now).......

wow, it's seems we are finally starting to get along and possibly see eye to eye. Wow...
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I never intended to fall out with you over anything - maybe my comments are a bit accusatory some of the time when people dont see things my way.

I guess that's probably what you don't(didn't? :-)) like about me ?

Yes I'm right, I'm right, I'm right, listen to me ! :-) :-)
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Originally Posted by youcanhandlethetruth:
I never intended to fall out with you over anything - maybe my comments are a bit accusatory some of the time when people dont see things my way.

I guess that's probably what you don't(didn't? :-)) like about me ?

Yes I'm right, I'm right, I'm right, listen to me ! :-) :-)

Abit accusatory, wow you sure are a modest individual.:-):-)

I still haven't made my mind up about whether you are likeable, I probably won't for some time to come...:-)
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Originally Posted by TannyD:
Abit accusatory, wow you sure are a modest individual.:-):-)

I still haven't made my mind up about whether you are likeable, I probably won't for some time to come...:-)

You're right Tanny, I am very accusatory. :-)

It's not that I'm trying to be personal with people, I'm just trashing their point of view :-):-)
The people that really get to me are those that are blatantly lying and telling other people a load of porkies. But yes I can be rude and I suppose I shouldn't be ?

It's really my frustration with trying(probably pointlessly) to awaken people to the truth.

I wish I could forget all that and just spend time making friends and having friendly and innocent conversations and have fun, but I am too deep into what I'm doing on here to make it my priority.

Still I can learn to be try to more fun, easy going, diplomatic etc etc.

But it won't be easy when I'm talking about the New World Order ! :-)

Maybe the time may come when I feel people aren't interested in believing anything other than themselves, and I'll just give up and go dating instead :-)
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Originally Posted by youcanhandlethetruth:
You're right Tanny, I am very accusatory. :-)

It's not that I'm trying to be personal with people, I'm just trashing their point of view :-):-)
The people that really get to me are those that are blatantly lying and telling other people a load of porkies. But yes I can be rude and I suppose I shouldn't be ?

It's really my frustration with trying(probably pointlessly) to awaken people to the truth.

I wish I could forget all that and just spend time making friends and having friendly and innocent conversations and have fun, but I am too deep into what I'm doing on here to make it my priority.

Still I can learn to be try to more fun, easy going, diplomatic etc etc.

But it won't be easy when I'm talking about the New World Order ! :-)

Maybe the time may come when I feel people aren't interested in believing anything other than themselves, and I'll just give up and go dating instead :-)

From being rude to being plain sarcastic, I don't know why I bother to talk to you sometimes... :-) :-)
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