Reading **** onboard this forum makes me think many of you Brits are as stupid as Americans. It's all about the damn oil, stupids. Smarten up,
connect the dots, turn off your damn TV, get your knowledge from
reliable internet sources, and come together as this is us against the
globalists.

The absurdity of the warmongering actions of Georgia, the US-Zionist Israel puppet regime, came to full light in a speech by President Saakashvili on BBC Monday August 11, 2008:

"What we are seeing from the Russians is the cold-blooded, calculated, premeditated murder of a small nation."

The Georgians attacked Russia and South Ossetia. Now this Globalist Zionist liar is trying to re-write the history of his own actions. Same old NWO head games: black is white, up is down, war is peace. And accountability is only for suckers and wimps.

On Tuesday, August 12, David Sackur of BBC Hardtalk was interviewing David Bakradze, chairman of the Georgian Parliament. None of the Georgian leaders will say WHY they invaded South Ossetia. As Hardtalk ended, Bakradze was asked if this confrontation with Russia would validate Georgia's bid to become a NATO member.

Bakradze made the clear statement "What is going on now in Georgia is a test case. This is about the Russian view of the New World Order versus the West view of the New World Order. If Russia wins it will validate the Russian view of the New World Order."

NOW, FINALLY, we know why the US, Israel and Georgia attacked South Ossetia. It should now be clear to all Americans that the BushCo Zionist Oil-Soaked Criminal Cartel's view of the New World Order has been flatly rejected. Bush has accomplished nothing during his 8 years in office but mayhem and lies and mass murder.

As of Tuesday morning, Russia has attacked in the western part of Georgia along the Black Sea, apparently against new Georgian troop build-ups there. For all practical purposes, in response to being attacked by Georgia, US and Israel, Russia has cut Georgia in half and what remains under control by the "Saakashvili Regime' may be 'landlocked' by the end of Tuesday or Wednesday.

Russia just made it clear what it thinks of BushCo Pipeline Dreams and BushCo vision of the New World Order.

Of course, their co-conspirators over in DC are calling it 'a disproportionate response" and Deadeye Dick says "Russia's actions must be responded to."

Lies, liars and damnable liars. (Cut the DEAL WITH IRAN you morons!)

I am not sure how many Americans know about the two wars Russia fought with Chechnya or even where Chechnya is located. Not many, that's certain. I have met too many Americans who can't even name the states that are adjacent to their own home states. And speaking to these multitudes of dumbed-down American cattle is the same endless stream of pancake make-up covered, hair-sprayed talking head 'internationally-recognized experts' on Iraq, Afghanistan and Iran - all of them spewing the same contrived DC ******** like so much pungent, putrid McDonalds fast-food. Meals of fast food sound bites for the masses.

The Zionist US media is nothing but a mouthpiece, a bullhorn, for US Zionist policy and an extension of every damned lie DC can dream up.

Poor, dumb Americans...sitting around uncountable dens, offices and local coffee shop roundtables discussing nonsensical, ill-informed **** that was never true, isn't true now and never will be true. Many Americans can't even find on a map the nations they are such 'experts' on...and will never see the world as it really is.

Many Americans heard the "Al Qaeda rebels in Chechnya" and bought into the lies that the skirmishes were with Islamic "Al Qaeda" extremists. I, for one, will be glad when Americans figure out that Al Qaeda is the damned CIA that is the bottom line, folks.

Those wars were before 9-11 but were part of US policy and CIA actions to pave the way for the takeover of the Caspian Basin. The Chechnya confrontation was the New World Order trying to impose itself on Russia for a pipeline right-of-way. Read on.

Well, let's try Geography 101 and see if anyone in America wakes up to the realities of the matter. With Georgia and Russia at war right now, let's see if a map will clue in those clueless Americans.

Note on the map, Chechnya is directly next door to Georgia, and the US and Israel just pushed Georgia into an attack on Russia. There is a war going on there RIGHT NOW to push Russia back...and it is NOT working. The blowback from Russia has been exactly what I expected...ferocious.

Even with all of this 'help' from the US and Israel, the Georgian military has been laid to waste. This is not Iraq 1991, this is 2008 and the New Russia is for real. They are a Superpower economically and militarily...but unlike the US they do not owe $1 to anyone. Like China, they are cash rich and much of Russia's wealth is due solely to Stupid George Bush, the weakened dollar, the soaring costs of oil and natural gas.

Continue reading and viewing maps...

The Bear And The NWO
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Liberty - as soon as you start on about Zionism, I gave up reading (and no I am not Jewish).

But you are right when you say that it is about oil, or rather you should say energy. Russia already has the natural gas pipeline comeing to Western Europe, so why not play for the oil pipline to the West which as well all know runs through Georgia. When they control both, then they have the West by the short and curlies. The gas pipeline goes through Ukraine (who are having fun with each other at the moment aren't they, and I look forward to when Ukraine tries and kicks Russia out of Sebastopol when their lease runs out!!!) and Russia regularly threatens to cut off supply to Ukraine as they are not paying enough.
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Originally Posted by angelman:
Liberty - as soon as you start on about Zionism, I gave up reading (and no I am not Jewish).

You don't have to be Jewish to be Zionist, there are many Jews who are not Zionist.

Being anti-Zionist is not being anti-Jewish.
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More conspiracy theory/NWO nuts, just what this forum needs.
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Originally Posted by whypatcondellisntfun:
You don't have to be Jewish to be Zionist, there are many Jews who are not Zionist.

Being anti-Zionist is not being anti-Jewish.

Fair enough that there are many Jews who are not Zionist. How many Zionists are not Jews?
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Israel call themselves Zionists. It means supporting the state of Israel. Those who
support the state of Israel are Zionists. So angelman, are you a Zionist?

Many right fundamentalist religions and some liberal religions in America support the state of Israel. The preachers stand before the congregation telling their sheep to support the state of Israel. Evangelicals believe in the Battle of Armageddon, an indicator that they would be predisposed to Christian Zionism. Preachers like Hagee, now dead Jerry Farwell, Pat Robertson, Gary Bauer, to name a few. They support an aggressive foreign policy on any country who does not support Zionism. Anyone who speaks out of not supporting this aggressive foreign policy is considers anti-Jew. What
a great stragety to shut them up by playing the racist card. So many Jews are not
Zionist. Then they are called self hating Jews. Again, a stragety to shut them up.

Google New World Order and you get 75,200,000 hits. West. I have no idea
why you deny the NWO. Are you in denial or part of the NWO??? Again, what a
great stragety to shut me up, dismissing me as a conspiracy theorist.

I'm a conspiracy theorist because I believe 911 was an inside job. I'm a conspiracy
theorist because I believe the USS Liberty was downed by Israel government. I'm a conspiracy theorist because I believe Hitler had the German Parliament burned and blamed it on the Communists. I'm a conspiracy theorist because I believe Nero blamed the Christians for burning Rome. Get the picture, west. There are people just like you,
west, in the past, who have dismissed the truth for whatever reason. You're playing me
but it isn't working. Better go to Plan B because Plan A just 'ain't" working.
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libertylover,

Don't be dragged into a "Zinonist" discussion by those who have no desire to seek the truth or debate the critical issues and want to smear your facts by playing the sick jewish/holocuast denial card trump card.

By trying to suppress the truth about what is going, these people are traitors to their country. Westcountryman especially as he supports the EU.

And remember "conspiracy theory" is just another name for "no evidence to disprove whats already been proven with evidence".
If they had any evidence to disprove your claims, then they would have presented it, but (of course) they didn't.

Kool-aid drinking elite loving idiots.....
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Originally Posted by angelman:
Fair enough that there are many Jews who are not Zionist. How many Zionists are not Jews?

So you're saying that anyone who is jewish can not possibly be criticized(regardless of their actions) because of WWII ?

If I criticize a black man for committing murder does that make me a racist ?

You played the "jew" card and it backfired on you - now you're trying to weasel your way out of it by creating a strawman argument.

Fake.
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