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Brutus 08:43 PM 26-05-2008
Just like to say hello.

I have been looking around at the different Nationalist sites and forums and stumbled across this one.

I am a confused Nationalist, as the Nationalist movement in England seems to be split into little groups who are fighting each other :-):-)
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Westcountryman 07:12 AM 27-05-2008
Greetings.

What sort of nationalist are you? Are we talking English Democrats/Free England Party or the BNP?
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Brutus 12:04 PM 27-05-2008
Again confused. Up until a month ago I thought I was a supporter of the BNP, but have recently had concerns about the leadership as I do believe NG is now holding the BNP. I believe he should be searching for somebody to lead the party to the next levels of power (MP's) and to take himself and all others who are tainted with the extreme right wing with him into retirement.

I had not thought about English nationalism until recently, and am undecided on the matter as I do not know enough about English nationalism.

What I do want is for all criminal or free loading immigrants to be sent back home,unless of course that is not possible due to them being killed on return. I am quite happy to live amongst law abiding hard working immigrants as long as it is controlled, and that includes the numbers of immigrants.

I want to turn the clock back to a time we had values, discipline and respect for others,a strong military tradition and investment for our people, and above all I want my culture back.

I am so sick and tiered of the big 3 destroying my children's future and culture that I could cry.
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Frith 01:01 PM 27-05-2008
His profile states English Nationalist. Hi Brutus. Check out the Free England Party and forum on here. :-)
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Westcountryman 03:24 PM 27-05-2008
Can 'culture' be brought about through legislation? There was me thinking it was a product of the people.
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Frith 03:55 PM 27-05-2008
He didn't say that. Not everyone who isn't a new age libertarian is a "fascist". People not only make culture but they also make the laws.
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Internationalist 04:08 PM 27-05-2008

Originally Posted by Brutus:
Just like to say hello.

Hello Brutus.

Originally Posted by Brutus:
I have been looking around at the different Nationalist sites and forums and stumbled across this one.

You have also stumbled across an alarming truth, which is that this site increasingly looks like a nationalist forum rather than a 'democracy' forum.

Originally Posted by Brutus:
I am a confused Nationalist, as the Nationalist movement in England seems to be split into little groups who are fighting each other :-):-)

Ah, so you have already had a look around the forum then? :-)
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Westcountryman 04:10 PM 27-05-2008

Originally Posted by Frith:
He didn't say that. Not everyone who isn't a new age libertarian is a "fascist". People not only make culture but they also make the laws.

Have I ever described anyone here as a fascist? I don't believe I have.

Originally Posted by :
I want to turn the clock back to a time we had values, discipline and respect for others,a strong military tradition and investment for our people, and above all I want my culture back.

I was responding to this comment. I'm not sure the government has the power to force such a reversion in 'culture' or 'values'. You can't tell people what to think or do, social engineering is a repulsive concept.
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Frith 04:16 PM 27-05-2008

Originally Posted by Westcountryman:
Have I ever described anyone here as a fascist? I don't believe I have.



I was responding to this comment. I'm not sure the government has the power to force such a reversion in 'culture' or 'values'. You can't tell people what to think or do, social engineering is a repulsive concept.

Sorry if I preempted, but it's a bad habit, or always has been, on this forum for certain people in the so-called libertarian movement to call absolutely everyone a fascist. I was afraid Brutus may end up going before he'd hardly arrived. :-)

Of course governments shouldn't create "state culture" :-). I know what this is like. So much dreadful architecture and self-opinionated sculptures all over the place.
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Frith 04:24 PM 27-05-2008
Unionist - ordinary nationalists believe in democracy. It's only extremists of both the left and right who would deny the existence of more than one political view. :-)

Perhaps what is happening is that there is a bit more democracy on here than there was because the mods are allowing a number of different kinds of political view space instead of just UKIP or libertarian. It makes for more lively debate and people were going crazy with the "you're a fascist" thing every time they opened their mouths. That gave the forum the character of extreme leftiness.
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