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Darth Bane 07:59 PM 21-06-2008
Well, it's nice to see another point of view rather than the motony that I have seen lately. I do not however agree with communism personally. It's the tyrany of horrible design born in Russia and there it should stay. Brussels is full of it!
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Roland 08:26 PM 21-06-2008

Originally Posted by worker10:
Hi everyone! I'm a member of the Communist Party.

Quick question would you have liked to have lived in the old soviet communist USSR?
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Roland 08:36 PM 21-06-2008
In fact can you name one communist country you'd be happy to live in?
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Alex McKee 02:07 AM 23-06-2008
Guys, don't fall into the trap of thinking that the USSR was necessarily a good example of what communism could do.

A real application of communism, or perhaps a modern hybrid of communism, might be a reasonable way of running a country.

I personally disagree with communist ideas but there is more to them than Stalin's politics.
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Akria 11:11 AM 23-06-2008
The idealised dream of communism would be a utopia.
It can never happen, though, which is why we should give up on communism and simply go for a liberal capitalist state.
Liberal rather than libertarian because the latter in many variants allows for no form of security to go hand in hand with liberty, the lack of security ironically removing liberty - at least, realistic application of liberty.
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BonnieDundee 02:51 PM 23-06-2008

Originally Posted by Akria:
The idealised dream of communism would be a utopia.
It can never happen, though, which is why we should give up on communism and simply go for a liberal capitalist state.
Liberal rather than libertarian because the latter in many variants allows for no form of security to go hand in hand with liberty, the lack of security ironically removing liberty - at least, realistic application of liberty.

You know you are giving into the whole fake state communism-corporate capitalist spectrum when you make comments like this? There are many other kinds of economic arrangements some as libertarian or more so than most libertarian capitalist schemes.
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BonnieDundee 02:53 PM 23-06-2008

Originally Posted by Alex McKee:
Guys, don't fall into the trap of thinking that the USSR was necessarily a good example of what communism could do.

A real application of communism, or perhaps a modern hybrid of communism, might be a reasonable way of running a country.

I personally disagree with communist ideas but there is more to them than Stalin's politics.

I agree I'm not a particularly pro-communist person myself but a libertarian and decentralist version could be as good as the same kind of capitalist arrangement. I personally aim in the middle of the communist and socialist schemes and the capitalist ones, talking on the libertarian and decentralist scale of course, but without aiming for lifeless hybrids.
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BonnieDundee 02:54 PM 23-06-2008

Originally Posted by Roland:
In fact can you name one communist country you'd be happy to live in?

The Anarchist parts of Spain in the civil war and the Maknovist parts of the Ukraine, ignoring the fighting of course.
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BonnieDundee 02:55 PM 23-06-2008

Originally Posted by Darth Bane:
Well, it's nice to see another point of view rather than the motony that I have seen lately. I do not however agree with communism personally. It's the tyrany of horrible design born in Russia and there it should stay. Brussels is full of it!

Communism really was not born in Russia.
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BonnieDundee 02:57 PM 23-06-2008

Originally Posted by worker10:
Hi everyone! I'm a member of the Communist Party.

Personally I don't mind communism but it must be libertarian and decentralist and you shouldn't go in for too much of the Marxist dogma.
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