why labour voters should vote ukip

Originally Posted by Westcountryman:
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Jesus, can I please have some advanced warning before the above happens so I can get the f*** out!?

You realise that Communism makes industry/the country uncompetitive, and that there's no incentive for innovation, research, technological advancement or to do a good job, since everyone gets the same regardless.

Why should someone be a doctor etc in a communist society, or strive to achieve if they're going to get the same 'perks' as a cleaner?

its a idealism, we both know labour or the torries will not lose power within our generations, they have mastered the art of propaganda and dominate all forms of media, they are master shepherds who know how to control their flock with lies. so no need to leave the country yet.

It would make us uncompetetive? Hardly, is china not competetive in the global market? as for research and advancement of current technologies there would be a good argument that this would only increase, many people with the brains to study the great arts of science would rather use their 'metal' to earn good money in other sectors, In england we have a severe lack of funding already for all the major sciences, google it and you'll see, it's common knowledge, in communism if someone shows a tallent for a particular field of science they will be encouraged to work in the industry not discouraged because of lack of funding

I already answered the question about why people will still become doctors,

http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/504072-post45.html

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Originally Posted by GenghisChris:
I suspect not, your 'needs' are vastly exagerated

Ahhh, so we see the truth. Our glorious communist nation expects all individuals to be identical, and have identical needs.

Originally Posted by GenghisChris:
your hearing, well I'm sure your doctor could supply you with ear protectors

My old man sells hearing protectors (Peltor - best you can buy). You can't sleep in them, and they don't cope with traffic rumble.

Originally Posted by GenghisChris:
as for not being able to eat at restraunts well that is tough luck

But "each according to his need". I have needs, so you must supply the solution. It's no good saying "tough luck".

Oh, wait. It is. We're in a capitalist world. Tough luck, commie.

Originally Posted by GenghisChris:
and seeing as you are terrified of flying again your doctor could send you to counselling to rid you of this phobia, I think you can get hypnosis on the NHS

I'm one of those strange people who can't be hypnotised.

Originally Posted by GenghisChris:
of course if you can't get past it you could always use the euro tunnel to get to the continent or travel via ferry

But how will I be able to go and visit our glorious comrades in Cuba? I have the need, so you must fulfil it. I didn't make the rules - Marx did. Now, instead of making lame excuses, supply me with the items I need.

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you clearly suffer extreme paranoia, your inability to even eat in a vegetarian restraunt and your inability to fly coupled with your hyper confrontive ways mean your 'chatacter' will not be able to operate succesfully within the system, I'd probably send you to a psychiatrist who would probably send you to the ministry of love till you're better :-)

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Originally Posted by GenghisChris:
you clearly suffer extreme paranoia, your inability to even eat in a vegetarian restraunt

I didn't say "vegetarian restaurant" - I said "restaurant". The veggies on here will concur that it's impossible to find a veggie restaurant in most places.

Paranoia? No. I'm physically ill at the smell of cooking meat or fish, so it's a medical condition. But then, we've already seen how communism treats people who're different due to medical conditions, haven't we?

Originally Posted by GenghisChris:
and your inability to fly coupled with your hyper confrontive ways mean your 'chatacter' will not be able to operate succesfully within the system, I'd probably send you to a psychiatrist who would probably send you to the ministry of love till you're better :-)

I'm not being "hyper-confrontive" - I'm simply asking for the items I need.

And you're showing why communism doesn't work, because it expects everyone to have the same needs. Like good little sheep.

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I'm sorry Chris but communism does not work. An ownership society with proper safety nets and a free market will allow the very best system to compile itself.

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Originally Posted by Westcountryman:
It's one of the rare occasions where the Sun got it bang on, in my opinion.

Kinock was better than the Tories in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee:
Kinock was better than the Tories in my opinion.

Sure, if you're a big fan of this flag:

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Originally Posted by Westcountryman:
Sure, if you're a big fan of this flag:

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Better than this one:

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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee:
Better than this one:

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Thatcher was nothing approaching Nazism.