Originally Posted by youcanhandlethetruth:
Personally I don't mind Smidgey - if someone attacks me it shows they're proabably frightened by something they don't like to admit to themselves.

And in the process they expose themselves for what they really are.

That's normally a very good sign I'm doing the right thing.

Bring it on I say.

Rather you than me! :-)
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It is completely unneeded and is just creeping authoritarianism.
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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee:
It is completely unneeded and is just creeping authoritarianism.

You mean Harbinger BonnieDundee or something else ?
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This extention of holding times.
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Originally Posted by BonnieDundee:
This extention of holding times.

Oh absolutely - and "creeping" is the best word to describe it (as in all authoritarian and totalitarian states).

I think that's what Joe Bloggs fails to comprehend - once the precedence is set then there's no turning back.

Give them an inch and they'll take the yard and more.
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Originally Posted by John Connor:
We got through 30 years of the IRA blowing **** up without this need for 42 day detention. We didn't need it then, we don't need it now.

How's your cat going to cope with not being fed for 42 days?

You actually know I have a cat? That's quite worrying.
Perhaps a preview of what the database state will be like in years to come :-)

In all seriousness though I will look at those Youtube videos, thanks to the person who gave me the link.
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Originally Posted by Smidgey:
Just because someone disagrees with you does not make them a loon.

You need to learn some common courtesy.

On topic: More authoritarian legislation that is allowing the terrorists to win.

I don't understand how it lets terrorists win?
Surely them NOT getting caught and blowing up the House Of Commons would be them winning?

For the majority of innocent UK citizens who aren't terror suspects, how does this effect the ordinary man? Not in any negative ways from what I can see, just reducing the chance of a terrorist blowing up his daughters school.

As I mentioned in my earlier post, I dislike the government taking away our civil liberties as much as the next, but terrorism is a different issue altogether. It is one of utmost seriousness and should be dealt with by any means possible, for the softly-softly approach could be devastating for our country
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Originally Posted by youcanhandlethetruth:
Do you know what the odds of that are ?

Very high. As it happens.
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Originally Posted by Earthling:
Surely them NOT getting caught and blowing up the House Of Commons would be them winning?

Wouldn't that actually be everyone winning?
I mean, to this day I still can't work out whether we're celebrating Guy Fawkes' capture or attempt.

(disclaimer: since the latest round of terrorist laws could have me locked up for glorification of terrorism for the above post, I'll point out to the humourless government lackies reading that it's a joke)
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Earthling, I could phone the police and say I suspect that you are a terrorist. See you in a month.
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