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Liberal Democrat General Issues>Pro-EU Lib. Dim party slumps in new poll as voters go Green
Dissident Congress 02:08 PM 31-12-2006

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I would say a lot of youngsters do, as they haven't experienced the real world. With all the propaganda being thrown at people at the moment, it's not surprising that a percentage are now seeping off to the party that says it puts the environment above all other issues.

I doubt it. The Greens may have been trendy during the 80s, but the under 30s of today see them as weird and very uncool. I'm tempted to say that more under 30s vote UKIP or BNP than vote Green.

The Greens of today are more of a humanitarian party than a party of the environment. They are more interested in gay rights in Papua New Guinea than local environmental activism.
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Britannist 02:14 PM 31-12-2006

Originally Posted by mkpdavies:
I know a number of Greens who are against the EU for instance.

One of the two Green MEPs is against the euro. But there are definitely europhiles in the Green Party. And the top Green on the London Assembly - Darren somebody or other - doesn't like UKIP.
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Britannist 02:25 PM 31-12-2006

Originally Posted by Dissident Congress:
I am intrigued to know exactly who votes for the Green Party.

The Greens are a very London centric party and about a third of their membership and a high proportion of their senior figures live inside the M25.

The Green vote in the ward I live in was quite high in the May 2006 London Borough Elections. They seem to have done well around here despite having had no campaign to speak of (I never got a Green leaflet; never saw any Green window posters and only learnt they were standing when I went to vote).

The Greens are getting votes from London leftist professionals - I don't think for one moment that they have much working class support.

They also do quite well in Brighton's Pavilion constituency (almost coming a very good second in the seat in last year's General Election) and in small sections of Bristol and Birmingham. I think they also have a concentration of elected councillors in Oxford (home of some professional graduate voters and employees of the university).

At the moment the Green Party is probably getting some of the anti-Iraq 'war' protest vote - but this will largely move back to Labour after Blair resigns as Prime Minister and when the start of the withdrawal of British soldiers from Iraq commences.

I believe that there is a point at which the Green Party will reach its electoral 'ceiling' (i.e. where it will not be able to increase its vote further). It has probably almost reached that point in some areas. In many areas of the country the Green Party hasn't got a hope anyway.

The latest opinion poll in the pro-Green and pro-EU 'Independent' newspaper puts support for the Greens at 5% - very high. However, recent talk of global warming by David Cameron appears to have delivered extra votes to the Greens - and not to him. Which is what I thought would happen.
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Dissident Congress 02:44 PM 31-12-2006
Inner London is strong Green territory and they managed to get several councillors elected in the 2006 local elections. Outside of London they only have support in a handful of towns such as Brighton, Oxford, Norwich, and Lancaster. The Greens perform poorly in white working class areas. They also have a habit of fielding white candidates in heavily ethnic wards and ending up with poor results. Despite being a pro-immigration and pro-multicultural party, the Greens are almost as white as the BNP.
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Millennium3 06:37 PM 31-12-2006

Originally Posted by mkpdavies:
I would say a lot of youngsters do, as they haven't experienced the real world. With all the propaganda being thrown at people at the moment, it's not surprising that a percentage are now seeping off to the party that says it puts the environment above all other issues.

The Greens sadly also have been hijacked by commies, but not in total. I know a number of Greens who are against the EU for instance.

I suppose that as more and more people realise that GW is caused by man's activities more and more people will join the Greens.

I thought they had been highjacked by the gays!
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mkpdavies 06:42 PM 31-12-2006

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I suppose that as more and more people are brainwashed to believe that GW is caused by man's activities more and more people will join the Greens.

Corrected for you.
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Millennium3 06:47 PM 31-12-2006

Originally Posted by mkpdavies:

Originally Posted by :
I suppose that as more and more people are brainwashed to believe that GW is caused by man's activities more and more people will join the Greens.

Corrected for you.

Are you allowed to do that?
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mkpdavies 06:48 PM 31-12-2006

Originally Posted by Millennium3:

Originally Posted by mkpdavies:

Originally Posted by :
I suppose that as more and more people are brainwashed to believe that GW is caused by man's activities more and more people will join the Greens.

Corrected for you.

Are you allowed to do that?

Around here, I am the law.
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Millennium3 06:51 PM 31-12-2006

Originally Posted by mkpdavies:

Originally Posted by Millennium3:

Originally Posted by mkpdavies:

Originally Posted by :
I suppose that as more and more people are brainwashed to believe that GW is caused by man's activities more and more people will join the Greens.

Corrected for you.

Are you allowed to do that?

Around here, I am the law.

Is there a higher authority or an appeal's court?
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mkpdavies 06:53 PM 31-12-2006

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Is there a higher authority or an appeal's court?

Only AB, but he knows not to mess. :P
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