It's always a pleasure to see the Liberal Democrats totally Humiliated

Dartford Council By Election


Labour 592 Votes 50%
Conservative 348 Votes 30%
English Democrats 198 Votes 17%


Liberal Demorats 22 Votes 1.5%

Ukip 19 Votes 1.5%

Total Votes 1179

The Council - Election results for Princes, 21 February 2008
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The English Democrats would no all about humiliation wouldnt you.

So I believe what you say here as you are an expert on the issue.
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Posted in error.
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Originally Posted by Kentishman:
It's always a pleasure to see the Liberal Democrats totally Humiliated...

Yes, I'm not complaining about it either :-).
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Let me see if I've understood this correctly.

If the Lib Dems get 1.5% of the vote it's a crushing humiliation for them.

But if UKIP get 1.5% of the vote then it's what, a stunning electoral victory perhaps?

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Originally Posted by Zak64:
Let me see if I've understood this correctly.
If the Lib Dems get 1.5% of the vote it's a crushing humiliation for them. But if UKIP get 1.5% of the vote then it's what, a stunning electoral victory perhaps?

I thought someone was going to ask this.

Let me put it this way: 'pro-rata' a 1.5% vote share for the Liberal 'Democrats' is much worse for them than is a 1% of 1.5% vote share for UKIP. Because the Liberal 'Democrats' would have dropped from a higher base to 1.5% of the vote than UKIP would have done.

The europhile Liberal 'Democrats' got a national vote share of 23% at the last General Election and they won 62 Parliamentary constituencies: for them to fall to 1.5% of the vote in a local ward election is for them a total (but well-deserved) humiliation at the polls.

UKIP got a national vote share at the last General Election of about 2.6% - to fall to 1.5% of the vote in a local ward contest is not good for UKIP but it is a far smaller drop from 2.6% to 1.5% (for UKIP) than is a fall from 23% to 1.5% (for the pro-EU Liberal 'Democrats').

By the way Zak64, no one ever said that UKIP getting 1.5% of the vote in a local ward contest "was perhaps a stunning electoral victory" (your words from the quote above).

1.5% of the vote for the Liberal 'Democrats' in the local ward By-Election in the key marginal target constituency of Dartford on 21.2.2008 is even worse for that party because they have just chosen a new leader - and the usual thing is a new leader of a political party has a 'political honeymoon' which attracts extra votes for his/her party. The exact reverse may have happened for the europhile Liberal 'Democrats' at Dartford last week :-).
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i wonder what inspired them 22 people to vote libdem.
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ingrained habit!
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Originally Posted by MAZZINI:
ingrained habit!

Spot on! It is the biggest mountain in my opinion UKIP has to climb!
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Kentishman and his EDP 8 votes humilation

London Borough of Lambeth,Vassall. Lib. Dem. 1209, Labour 856, Conservative 206, Green 109, English Democrat 8, Independent 7. Liberal Democrat gain from Labour, on a 12% swing. The Liberal Democrats performed badly in Lambeth in 2006,and so will be delighted by their performance in this ward. Quite possibly, the Lambeth/Southwark GLA constituency will now be vulnerable to them in May.
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